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19 Days for an e-check to clear????

An item sold on June 1 and the payment is pending because the Buyer is attempting to use an echeck ... the PayPal transaction advises that it should be completed by June 19th ... I seem to recall 3-5 days was the normal time period for echecks to clear?!?

 

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Mr. Lincoln - Community Mentor
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@city*satins wrote:

Thanks for showing those screens.  That is a change I wasn't aware of.  (and don't like!)


You bet, any time.  It forces a call OR the use of their Chat feature.  I recently used it and it was great, real time saver. 


In the past i have had a couple of E-checks take much longer than they should and after discussing things with Paypal, found out that the issue was with either the ACH clearing house or even the buyers bank being slow to deal with the ACH transactions.  I had to issue a refund to a buyer after they cancelled their transaction, but unfortunately Ebay had billed their fees for both accounts and so I no longer had the $350+ in my Paypal Account to cover the refund.  This wound up causing the buyer to get an Echeck from me which for whatever reason was taking way to long to clear.  I contacted Paypal about it because it was nearing month end and the amount still had not cleared and i was going to wind up having to pay the Ebay fees on that sale and then get my credit the next month which I was not at all happy about.  They dug deep into the situation and for whatever reason the ACH clearing house was backed up, so processing was taking up to 15 days. 

 

Hope this helps a little with the situation.

 

 

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Have not had an e-check payment in quite some time, but never took more than 7 days.

 

Hopefully PP (unlike eBay) added some days to the estimate rather than shortening:)

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Have not had an e-check payment in quite some time, but never took more than 7 days.

 

In the past, PayPal would resubmit the echeck if it failed the first time. I don't know if they still do.  If so, that may be a reason why it is taking so long. 

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I would never wait that long.  You can go to your PP activity, look at that transaction and CANCEL it.  I would notify my buyer that the echeck just didn't seem to want to clear and ask them to submit a proper payment ASAP to cover the item they purchased.  If I didn't hear anything from them in 24-48 hours, I'd open a UID.  But I would NEVER wait that long hoping an echeck cleared.


mam98031  •  Volunteer Community Member  •  Buyer/Seller since 1999
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I had one from a buyer in Canada take 15 days. He was a seller of expensive toys too. I don’t know if it took longer because he was outside of the country. I waited patiently. I did add him to the block list afterwards . People who send payment as a e-check do not have a credit card on file or their credit card expired. I don’t think that you can cancel an e-check. After all, it is a valid PayPal payment.
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@ms.rodriguez* wrote:
I had one from a buyer in Canada take 15 days. He was a seller of expensive toys too. I don’t know if it took longer because he was outside of the country. I waited patiently. I did add him to the block list afterwards . People who send payment as a e-check do not have a credit card on file or their credit card expired. I don’t think that you can cancel an e-check. After all, it is a valid PayPal payment.

That is an assumption. 

 

And yes a seller can cancel an echeck.  I've done it.


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I would never wait that long.  You can go to your PP activity, look at that transaction and CANCEL it.  I would notify my buyer that the echeck just didn't seem to want to clear and ask them to submit a proper payment ASAP to cover the item they purchased.  If I didn't hear anything from them in 24-48 hours, I'd open a UID.  But I would NEVER wait that long hoping an echeck cleared.


I tend to agree about not waiting that long, a week maybe but not almost 3.  Just to clarify, you "cancelled" in PayPal not eBay?  By doing that does it avoid an OOS strike on your eBay account?  Prior to posting I actually messaged the Buyer asking if they could check with PayPal for an update on the echeck payment ... no word back ...

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1.  Be  patient  on when to expect the  buyers reply.  Don't know the time  zone your buyer  is in but you original  post was  sent yesterday 06.05  around 7PM pacific time zone - this  could be around 9 pm on the east coast - the  may  have yet to read it.  And your most current post is today at 2:57 AM (PT) or 5:57 AM EDT or  ~9 hours  ago

2.  It  has been a long while that I have received an e check and  never was burned by  one (as in it  didn't clear for NSF).  But do recall one from a lady that requested  would it be OK if she could pay  by an e check  but  not  for about two more weeks - she was waiting for her Social Security  check to  be  deposited to her account and she  was buying this item for her grand daughter.  I am human and  have been in a pinch at times and folks  worked with me so I said yes.  Life  doesn't have to be a  game of hard ball all the time.   Hopefully, we  all will get older -  heck I am  6  months  away from have spent  3/4  of a century on this planet and still believe in the  value of a firm handshake as  long as  the other person looks me straight in the eye - hard to do on the 'net.

3.  Yes, I  do  agree there needs to be a communication between the buyer & you.  But give it  some time.  

 

CIAO!

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@johnrj1226 wrote:

@mr_lincoln

1.  Be  patient  on when to expect the  buyers reply.  Don't know the time  zone your buyer  is in but you original  post was  sent yesterday 06.05  around 7PM pacific time zone - this  could be around 9 pm on the east coast - the  may  have yet to read it.  And your most current post is today at 2:57 AM (PT) or 5:57 AM EDT or  ~9 hours  ago

2.  It  has been a long while that I have received an e check and  never was burned by  one (as in it  didn't clear for NSF).  But do recall one from a lady that requested  would it be OK if she could pay  by an e check  but  not  for about two more weeks - she was waiting for her Social Security  check to  be  deposited to her account and she  was buying this item for her grand daughter.  I am human and  have been in a pinch at times and folks  worked with me so I said yes.  Life  doesn't have to be a  game of hard ball all the time.   Hopefully, we  all will get older -  heck I am  6  months  away from have spent  3/4  of a century on this planet and still believe in the  value of a firm handshake as  long as  the other person looks me straight in the eye - hard to do on the 'net.

3.  Yes, I  do  agree there needs to be a communication between the buyer & you.  But give it  some time.  

 

CIAO!


Good points ... I am actually treating it like a normal Auction that ends and I give Buyers up to a week to pay.  Since most Auctions end on weekends, any that are unpaid by Wednesday I send a polite message asking for an update on the status of their payment ... in this case I messaged last evening (same time zone) asking if they would check with PP.  After that I normally wait for either the payment or the following weekend to roll around to process a UPI ... seldom do they go that long.  Some Buyers will message back others won't ...

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When I  sold on auctions  I followed a similar  F/U process as you.    While I  had some  buyers  that were  up front and asked for  extended payment time longer than  2  days and  i  complied but never had a payment issue.  But on the other hand  had  beaucoup non payers, non communicators.  So I ditched auctions and went to Fixed Price listing w/ Best Offer Options and Immediate Payment Required.  Life  has be good every since.  This  works  for me but there are many ways  to "skin the rabbit".  To each there own, I say

"I have the right to remain silent but I didn't have the ability." Ron White, Fritch, Texas
"Stay away from negative people, they have a problem for every solution." A. Einstein
"The Devil made me do it!" - Flip Wilson
"If the band can only play loud - they ain't no good - peps too!" J.R. Johnson
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@johnrj1226 wrote:

When I  sold on auctions  I followed a similar  F/U process as you.    While I  had some  buyers  that were  up front and asked for  extended payment time longer than  2  days and  i  complied but never had a payment issue.  But on the other hand  had  beaucoup non payers, non communicators.  So I ditched auctions and went to Fixed Price listing w/ Best Offer Options and Immediate Payment Required.  Life  has be good every since.  This  works  for me but there are many ways  to "skin the rabbit".  To each there own, I say


For what  I sell there are some things that I specifically use Auctions for because they take time to pack properly and my time during the week is more limited.  So ending Auctions on Weekends gives me time to get them packed before Monday AM.

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Understand.  You  gotta' do what works best for you.  That  is one example of why the eBay team doesn't understand very well when their policies are one size  that fits all - yeah they split  hairs by  changing quantitative values to measure levels of achievement and screw ups .  Guess what I'm saying is some  polices are very relevant for large  volume  $ & unit sellers, large unit volume sellers but not  large $ dollar and so on.  Policies for  the  medium size and  small seller should be a bit different from the  big boys or girls.  Some  day when I'm king of eBay I will implement that  type of policy/measurements but the  chance of that happening is very slim to none for this '44 model.

  eBay  used to  send me questionnaires about  different matters - haven't  had a  a requests in ions.  So much for  staying in touch with the folks - unless one travels to some far away site or  listen in on to one of the talkathons.  Kinda'  like politicians need election time - you  get mail, see 'em on TV, etc then  they run silent and deep until net elections cycle where they  say look what I did - guess none of those other representative, senators had any thing to do with what  happened or didn't happen.  Enough time on my soap box.

CIAO!  PURA VIDA!  Life is  good with or with eBay!

"I have the right to remain silent but I didn't have the ability." Ron White, Fritch, Texas
"Stay away from negative people, they have a problem for every solution." A. Einstein
"The Devil made me do it!" - Flip Wilson
"If the band can only play loud - they ain't no good - peps too!" J.R. Johnson
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I believe the time it takes for echecks to clear can vary quite a bit.  As long as the buyer is aware of the issue and doesn't become hostile or overly demanding I have no problem.  However, I must admit that I've had more echecks from customers go south than I ever did when we took personal checks.  Go figure!

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@mr_lincoln wrote:

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I would never wait that long.  You can go to your PP activity, look at that transaction and CANCEL it.  I would notify my buyer that the echeck just didn't seem to want to clear and ask them to submit a proper payment ASAP to cover the item they purchased.  If I didn't hear anything from them in 24-48 hours, I'd open a UID.  But I would NEVER wait that long hoping an echeck cleared.


I tend to agree about not waiting that long, a week maybe but not almost 3.  Just to clarify, you "cancelled" in PayPal not eBay?  By doing that does it avoid an OOS strike on your eBay account?  Prior to posting I actually messaged the Buyer asking if they could check with PayPal for an update on the echeck payment ... no word back ...


I didn't Cancel the transaction [Ebay], I cancelled the payment [PP].

 

As far as Ebay is concerned, it is an unpaid transaction until that payment clears.  So as far as Ebay goes you are fine.  As I previously stated I would then send an email to the buyer telling them that their payment did NOT go through for whatever reason there may be.  I wouldn't say I cancelled it.  And ask them to resubmit their payment using another means, not another echeck.  

 

Then I'd wait a day or so.  If no answer, I'd filed the UID.


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@7606dennis wrote:

I believe the time it takes for echecks to clear can vary quite a bit.  As long as the buyer is aware of the issue and doesn't become hostile or overly demanding I have no problem.  However, I must admit that I've had more echecks from customers go south than I ever did when we took personal checks.  Go figure!


When 19+ days are involved, it is likely that the first time through the buyer's bank, it bounced.  19+ days is more than enough time for an echeck to be processed even from an international bank.  

 

On a US bank, it will get cleared inside of a week easily.  If it is any longer than that, there is an issue, you may not know what that issue is, but an issue nonetheless.


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