Is this Coach Backpack authentic?

[the_bargain_basement]

Hi there,

I saw this listing & thought the creed looked weird. Asked for a better pic of creed & for pics of hardware & seller sent me the pics attached.  It looks counterfeit to me, but wanted to check here.  It also has two bids, so would like to know.

Thank you

[fashionclubgurl]

Just from those 2 photos you posted Ive seen enough to make me believe its fake, but you shouldnt act on that yet

The turnlock is almost 100 percent limited to fakes. Even though a few non-Coach replacement turnlocks can have the same details, so far every one Ive seen has been on a fake. We DONT report items as fake based just on a turnlock.

The creed stamp and serial number are bad too, as you already noticed. The serial stamping is terrible, there are large gaps between words in the creed where they shouldnt be.

 I cant read the serial year code and thats important just like all the other serial number digits. Give me  afew minutes to try and tweak the photos.

[fashionclubgurl]

Do you actually own the bag? Id really like a better creed and serial photo and one that isnt upside down. It looks like a third of the creed is missing and the first few digits of the serial are unreadable.I cant find trustworthy pictures of the same style either.

Are you the seller?

[albertabrightalberta]

I've found some fakes but I found some that are authentic and based on what I've seen, the bag in question is fake. 

In question: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Coach-Bag-Large-Backpack-9943-turn-lock-Black/392681919777?hash=ite...

Comp 1: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Coach-Black-Leather-Backpack-Drawstring-Turnlock-9943-Made-In-USA-L...

comp 2: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Rare-Coach-Brown-Leather-Drawstring-Backpack-Book-Bag-Daypack-9943/...

[albertabrightalberta]

And this rotated picture of the creed is telling! 

[fashionclubgurl]

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@albertabrightalberta wrote:

And this rotated picture of the creed is telling! 

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Its impossible to tell what the year code is, but Im sure there were never any known  GENUINE B-plant serial number stamps where the "o" in "No" was almost as big as the N. But so far I DID find one that looks very similar with the same over-large "o". I also have a closeup of the stitching on one corner of the front flap which is what raised a red flag and why I marked the creed photo as Probably Fake when I saved it. The spacing of the words in the creed is slightly different but the fakers many have modified the creed stamp along the way and were probably using separate creed and serial stamps just like Coach did.

Its barely possible that it may have been a repair, but why would anyone doing a repair use stitches that were less than half the size of the original ones? It doesnt make sense to me. The font of the Coach logo in the comparison photo looks "off" too but I think the serial number stamping in both purses may have been made by the same stamp. The 9s in both serial stamps look the same.

If I find any more with similar problem details, Ill post them

[fashionclubgurl]

Another oversized "o", notice the faint impression of the edge of a stamp ABOVE the creed stamp. That never happens on genuine Coaches.

[the_bargain_basement · Accepted solution]

Thank you all so much for your insight! No, I do not own the bag.  I saw it listed on the link provided in my first post (but maybe it didn't work?).  Today I looked for it and no longer see it, so perhaps it ended?  Anyway, thanks so so much for your help and expertise!  Very much appreciated.