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Pottery, Interesting piece: unusual mark. any ideas?

le*attique
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Estate find: 7" tall looks African in design but could just be highly stylized.  Lightly irridized.

 

Looks like a man's face in a helmet .

 

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Thanks in advance!

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My opinion - is it is absurd to think it had anything to do with Picasso or Matisse, inspiration or otherwise. I would have to hear from the designer or potter about it to even seriously consider those options. But I am a natural born skeptic that requires evidence, logic, and/or reasoning (and I see none of those here) before I would consider any possibility.

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you have to admit a strong resemblance in the lines between the pottery and the drawing on a picasso drawing though.

Coincidence? perhaps.

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The walls are actually 5/16"  thick , and the face is impressed into the vessel 

 

the lines of the interior face exactly align with the lines of the exterior, and so the faces are pressed into the surface.

 

the walls are not thick clay, with the face carved from the thick wall: the walls are 5/16"" thick all around

 

 

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le*attique
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We have a candidate: Claudio Pulli.

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@le*attique wrote:

We have a candidate: Claudio Pulli.


Based on what?

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@le*attique wrote:

The walls are actually 5/16"  thick , and the face is impressed into the vessel 

 

the lines of the interior face exactly align with the lines of the exterior, and so the faces are pressed into the surface.

 

the walls are not thick clay, with the face carved from the thick wall: the walls are 5/16"" thick all around


I took a closer look. this appears to be a slip made pot.

 

An actual pot was made of clay (notice the finger marks), a face was carved as I described and the pot fired.

 

Than a two (or three) part plaster mold was made was made of that pot. Liquid clay (slip) is turned around in the mold, allowed to dry, un-molded glazed and fired. The fact that the inside is glazed as well is unusual, but perhaps due to the porous nature of the slip used.

 

 

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grasping at the straw C and what could be P on the base?

 

It COULD be a P   Could be. maybe.It COULD be a P Could be. maybe.

but probably not. 

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Seems like a pretty complicated and involved process.

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@le*attique wrote:

grasping at the straw C and what could be P on the base?


Ah, OK. I thought you'd maybe found a similar-looking piece by Claudio Pulli, I was just curious to see it. An internet search isn't bringing up anything directly comparable for me (or another example of that stamped XX), but you never know.

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@le*attique wrote:

We have a candidate: Claudio Pulli.


My personal opinion is that the bluish letters are sending you on a wild good chase.  The signifcant mark is the incised one.  The C P (or whatever it is) might have been put on there at any time, without regard ot relation to the maker.

 

 

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XX in brackets seems to be hand incised not stamped.

We are definitely on a wild goose chase 😉
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@le*attique wrote:

Seems like a pretty complicated and involved process.


It is basically how 80% of the ceramics in the typical American home are made. Every coffee mug and most every knick knack.

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yah, Wild Goose chase is right.
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Interesting phrase: I didn't realize it was first attested in Romeo and Juliet.

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Act II Scene 4  Romeo & JulietAct II Scene 4 Romeo & Julietlaughing

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Right .

So there should be plenty of these floating around.
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