12-08-2018 08:20 AM
Hi,
I recently came across what appears to be an antique silver salt spoon/ladle with maker's marks that may make it a George III piece, dating it to c. 1799.
Are there any silver experts out there that can identify the maker and date of manufacture based on the markings in the photo below?
The six-pointed star mark suggests that it might be the product of a Jewish artisan but I may be misinterpreting what it is.
Also, any guesses on possible value?
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12-08-2018 09:04 AM
I'm sorry, but the hallmarks are not correct for a piece of British sterling, so it is not likely to be a British piece. Unfortunately, it doesn't have the Lion Passant, or the Assay Office mark, and the bust mark that is on it doesn't match the George III mark that was used.
A British Sterling piece should have 5 hall marks on it. The Lion Passant (meaning British Sterling) should always be present. There there will be the mark for the reigning monarch at the time, the mark identifying which Assay Office did the testing, and a letter that identifies what year it was tested, and the maker's mark. The marks may be in any order or arrangement, but with the possible exception of the maker's mark, they should all be there unless the item is physically so tiny that they can't be stamped on it.
12-08-2018 09:04 AM
I'm sorry, but the hallmarks are not correct for a piece of British sterling, so it is not likely to be a British piece. Unfortunately, it doesn't have the Lion Passant, or the Assay Office mark, and the bust mark that is on it doesn't match the George III mark that was used.
A British Sterling piece should have 5 hall marks on it. The Lion Passant (meaning British Sterling) should always be present. There there will be the mark for the reigning monarch at the time, the mark identifying which Assay Office did the testing, and a letter that identifies what year it was tested, and the maker's mark. The marks may be in any order or arrangement, but with the possible exception of the maker's mark, they should all be there unless the item is physically so tiny that they can't be stamped on it.
12-08-2018 09:50 AM
Thanks very much for the insights.
I had a feeling the marks weren't consistant with British marks. I guess that still leaves the country of origin question.
12-08-2018 09:58 AM
My guess would be that it's an American coin silver salt spoon, but I am no expert.
12-08-2018 10:05 AM
My guess would be American also ... testing should show what the silver content is, whether it should be called coin silver or sterling.
In the 19th century and possibly into the 20th, silver makers that were not in Britain or UK would sometimes copy their hallmarks. In the UK, the use of "pseudo hallmarks" was banned at some point. Late 19th or early 20th century IIRC. But they couldn't do anything about practices outside their country.
In this case, if the salt spoon was found in the USA, then there's a good chance it was made here.
12-08-2018 10:09 AM
You could maybe have a look through these for comparables:
12-08-2018 12:17 PM
Thanks for you opinion on this. I have a feeling it's American, too.
12-08-2018 12:18 PM
Yep. Definitely found in the U.S.
Thanks.
12-08-2018 12:20 PM
Many thanks. That was helpful.
12-08-2018 12:52 PM - edited 12-08-2018 12:54 PM
12-08-2018 12:52 PM
Glad it was useful, it might also be a good idea to ask on this forum:
https://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=3&sid=464296016a2e8653cac2d613ba44b201
12-08-2018 01:21 PM
Outstanding. Thanks, again!