Help with coat of arms/family crest?

[amazinggracehsts]

Looking to the experts again with this oval hinged silver trinket box. I think I have the box figured out (Made by Karl Kurz in Hanau, Germany, imported to London, England and assayed in 1900, .930 silver) but I've not had much luck with the decoration on the lid (box is about 3.5" x 2.5" x .75"). The crown is there along with some other adornments. Some kind of coat of arms or family crest? Any ideas? Thanks in advance

[sonomabarn67]

there was a lady on the antiques board that was quite good with coats of arms etc.

[lacemaker3 · Accepted solution]

It is neither a coat of arms, nor a crest. It's a decorative monogram (two letter L's), inside a laurel wreath, with a decorative crown above.

The use of crowns in heraldry is covered by specific rules, which are not applied here, so that's why I'm saying it is decorative rather than formal heraldry. There were books of monograms published in the late 19th century, so they were quite popular. They often included decorative surrounds and various styles of crowns, which could be used by anyone who bought a copy of the book. The jeweler may have had such books to share with his customers.

It is a beautiful piece, which would have been purchased by (or made for) someone with the initials L L. Or possibly, just their surname started with L, but two letters were used to produce a symmetrical design.

[amazinggracehsts]

Thank you so much - this just what I needed to know. It's so nice to have access to the expertise on this board. Wishing you all a Merry Christmas. God bless - Mark

[sonomabarn67]

Thinking it through, maybe Lacemaker will stop by. 🤔😀

[lacemaker3]

LOL!  Thanks. 🙃