01-22-2019 03:25 PM
Fellow sellers, please be aware that using the GSP (where it clearly states "seller is not liable for damage") does not ensure coverage. In late October I sold a high value item ($2,095) to a customer in Australia, and was shipped using the GSP. Item was relatively heavy, and was shipped in accordance with UPS shipping guidelines (double boxed, new boxes, 1/2" bubble). 1 month after receiving item, buyer oped case stating it was not functional (I will state it was functional when it left here). I did some research, and on the final tracking number when it was delivered it is noted "item damaged". I called ebay, and the woman I spoke with said I would not be liable, and it would be closed out.
The next day I received an email from ebay support, telling me that they decided I would have to refund the buyer, as well as arrange shipping of this item back to me from Australia! I informed them this was incorrect, and the reply I received back said according to Keysight (the manufacturer), the item was "internally damaged". To explain- buyer stated there was damage to the TX/RX communication, which ports are protruding from the front of the unit. The buyer also stated the control panel (front of the unit) was not functional. I explained to the ebay support random person that the photos I posted of the configuration would not be accessible if the front panel was not functional prior to shipment, and that damage was notated on the delivery manifest; as such, I should be covered under the GSP "contract". I did not receive a reply.
On 12/27 I attempted to take care of year end obligations, yet was unable to do so when I found out $2,095 was debited from my paypal account by ebay as refund to the buyer. I called ebay 12/28, and the woman I spoke with sounded as if the damage on the manifest was never a part of their "investigation". I was told I would get a reply back in 3-4 days- it has now been 26 days, and not a word. This rep again brought up the "internal damage", and I explained to her that if you were driving a car and hit your garage at 15 miles an hour, damaging your front end and radiator in the process, would the insurance company say that they wouldn't cover the radiator because it didn't hit the garage directly? (no, that would be ridiculous!). I also stated that it sounds as if ebay is treating this "internal damage" as "knowingly shipping a non-functioning unit", and would expect and request proof of this to be brought forward if this is the case.
If anyone has any information, or contact info from someone that can get this satisfactorily resolved, I would certainly appreciate it. Best of luck to all for a successful 2019, and keeping the scammers (ALL of them) away!
01-22-2019 05:07 PM - edited 01-22-2019 05:11 PM
I hear that reaching out to eBay for Business through Facebook has decent results.
And you need to be persistent about the shipping damage notation.
01-22-2019 07:04 PM
You assumed the risk for loss or damage on one leg going up to GSP, and your buyer assumed the risk for loss or damage down the other leg of GSP. The only time the GSP is responsible is between the two legs:
Risk of Loss. The risk of loss or damage to a GSP Item shall remain with your Seller until the GSP Item is accepted at the US or UK Shipping Center or has been returned to your Seller by Pitney Bowes from the US or UK Shipping Center. Subject to any statutory rights you may have, the risk of loss or damage to a GSP Item shall transfer to you when the GSP Item leaves the US or UK Shipping Center for export.
https://pages.ebay.com/shipping/globalshipping/buyer-tnc.html
So it is your buyer, not you, who must pay for the damage in transit during export from the GSP Shipping Center.
01-23-2019 08:19 AM
@ga-8370 wrote:
So it is your buyer, not you, who must pay for the damage in transit during export from the GSP Shipping Center.
Well, not really.
There's also this from the same set of terms and conditions you quoted:
Lost, Damaged, or Undeliverable Items; Valid Delivery Address Required. If a GSP Item that you purchase is not delivered to the delivery address specified by you or to the collection center near you that is designated by the shipping carrier, it is damaged, or it does not match your Seller's description, your purchase may be covered by an eBay Money Back Guarantee or PayPal Purchase Protection program.
My gut feeling on this is that the buyer went through the MBG or PayPal for this and didn't specify that this item was forwarded through the Global Shipping Program and instead stated that the item "wasn't functional", implying that the seller had shipped a non-working item. If there had been a note made to the effect that the item was damaged in transit from the Global Shipping Center, eBay or PayPal would have been flagged to deal with Pitney Bowes for the refund rather than the seller.