09-27-2017 07:10 PM
September 2 a buyer purchases a large lamp from me for 100.00 plus 43.00 in shipping. The buyer receives the lamp on the 7th. On the 21st I receive a return request that the item arrived damaged. They send photos and there is no way that the damage in the images could have happened during shipping. The buyer is aparently very aware of eBay policies because the message they sent along with it did nothing but bash my shipping abilities and say I used inferior packing materials and boxes. Leaving out key details about how I shipped.
This seemed very odd to me because A. I take great pride in my shipping and for this particular item I used over 200 sheets of packing tissue, 40+ feet of bubble wrap (it was a big Easter Island Head lamp made of heavy plastic over 1 inch thick) The bubble wrap was 2 inches thick all the way around and with the tissue was unable to move in the box. The images provided by the buyer show the entire lamp base was completly broken in two. Not possible by how it was packed. And B. Why wait two weeks to contact me about a damaged item. When I asked for more photos of the box the Buyer got very angry again bashing my shipping and took staged photos of the lamp in a box with maybe 10 pieces of paper around it and demanding an immediate refund or else.
I offer 60 day returns and will gladly pay return shipping. When the buyer was so quick to get angry and beligerant in his email demanding an immediate refund I felt like I was being scammed. I was willing to give the refund and move on but thought I would contact eBay first to see what they said.
I spoke with a CS rep and told him what happened. He told me that it was not my fault and that eBay would pay the buyer and I should wait until the case runs out and let eBay may the decision on the 25th and then contact eBay on the 26th. I thought this was odd and asked for clarification twice just to make sure. He assured me this is what would happen and that since the buyer was so harsh to send him an email to let him know that all further questions should be directed at eBay. He said he would make notes so that when I called in the next CS would know what we talked about and that it would be fine.
Called on the 26th and spoke to another CS he escelated the case to eBay and again assured me that I would not be paying for this and that eBay would take care of it. He then asked if I received the item back. I told him that no I did not because the lamp was broken and I didn't want to pay another 43.00 to have a broken lamp shipped. No problem it will take 5 days (again weird) and that all would be fine. I hang up and 5 minutes later he calls back. Now he says the case will not be in my favor and that I should appeal and all would be well. Two hours later I get a notification that an e Check has been issued in the amount of 143.00. I'm confused so I call and the 3rd CS rep says she will look into in and get back to me. I get an email and hour later saying they found in the buyers favor and the appeal was denied?!?!?!?!? What?!?!?!?! I call today and the CS I speak after being on the phone for an hour tells me sorry nothing I can do. I tell her how does that work your CS gave me advise told me what to do and what would happen next and then everything he says is apparently a bold face lie and there is nothing they can do about it. I had no issue refunding to begin with but when I call for advise and follow it to the letter from eBay who I thought would know then I am told everything was wrong I take issue with that. She says she will look into it and that extra training would be given to the CS. She also mentions all he put into notes was Not Sellers Fault broke in transit. No mention of the refund or anything else he said. I asked if the recording of the call can be reviewed. She says it will and that they will speak to the CS and that I will not find out what happens. I ask to speak to a supervisor and she won't let me.
I work full time in sales. If I give my customer a price too low we honor it. If I tell my customers the process to fix something and it is wrong we do everything we can to make it right and compensate the customer if we can't. eBay basically told me I was S.O.L. Is that the case? As I said I had every intention of just refunding until I followed the CS' advise. Now I gave bad service to my buyer, I leave myself open to negative feedback and at the end of the day I am still out 143.00 for a broken lamp I'm 90% sure the buyer broke. I know this is long and I could have gone into even more detail but I am just looking for advise and if anyone knows a way to contact a supervisor at eBay since apparently asking to speak to one doesn't work.
09-27-2017 07:23 PM
You shouldn't have contacted ebay. You have a 60 day return policy so you should have either issued a refund & filing an insurance clain, or just accepted the return and paid for return shipping and left the ball in the buyers court, stopped communicating with them, ignored their messages and waited for the item to be shipped back.. Ebay doesn't pay off bad buyers like this out of ebay's pocket, they pay them off out of the sellers pocket. The fact that you have a return policy should have clued you in that customer service was telling you a big fat lie. Ebay never foots the bill in this situation. Customer service flat out lied to you.
09-27-2017 07:30 PM
09-28-2017 07:58 AM
Been down that road with ebay customer service over an issue similar to yours. Customer Service agrees that they can see there is no problem with item (buyer filed SNAD) and tells me they are putting notes on file, to wait until the time expires and then I should escalate claim to ebay and they will see what is going on in my favor. Yeah, right! Within 3 minutes of escalating the claim ebay found against me and issued a refund to the seller.
When I called back about this I was give the standard so sad, too bad from ebay. In fact I was actually told by a rep, and I have her name and will look it up on my paperwork on this, that ebay was aware of what buyers were pulling and would be addressing that situation in the Fall. Well, Fall is here and again there is nothing for sellers except that now, if a buyer wants to return an item and pays for shipping, ebay will issue them the label!!!! Now, if that doesn't take refunds out of the sellers hands for whatever reason I don't know what does.
09-28-2017 08:19 AM
@meahtoysandcollectibles wrote:I offer 60 day returns and will gladly pay return shipping
So why didnt you just accept the return?
09-30-2017 04:21 PM
Ebay is a very buyer bias site. What I've learned in the past, if a buyer states that the item is broken or not as descibed, eBay, will side with the buyer and force you to take the return or force you to issue a refund. I can't even count how many times this has happened to me. Ebay also doesn't follow a certain guideline to how soon a buyer has to report a broken or not as described item. I've had buyers wait nearly 2 months, before "claiming" that an item was broken or not as decribed, and win the dispute. That's more than enough time for an item to be broken, or whatever at the seller's expense. It never takes that long to figure that out.