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Would you buy/list more items if there were a sliding scale for FVF???

FVF is a cost of goods sold.

How may items have you passed on buying for re-sale because the potential profit margin was too thin because of the FVF?

What sliding scale would attract you?

 

 

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Would you buy/list more items if there were a sliding scale for FVF???


@nawlinsron2 wrote:

FVF is a cost of goods sold.

How may items have you passed on buying for re-sale because the potential profit margin was too thin because of the FVF?

What sliding scale would attract you?

 

 


Evening,

 

I NEVER had a problem paying the FVF...I had a problem with the continuously changing rules that kept us from being able to plan 6 months in advance in order to be successful enough to pay them.

 

Mr C

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Would you buy/list more items if there were a sliding scale for FVF???

Meh.  Due to having a combo of store and non store accounts, my fees are already on a sliding scale of 10% for the non store accounts; and depending on the categories, from 3.5% up to a max of 9.15% for the stores.

If it works, sell it. If it works well, sell it for more. If it doesn't work, quadruple the price and sell it as an antique.

-- Ferengi Rule of Acquisition #80
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@thenobletuckylife wrote:

@nawlinsron2 wrote:

FVF is a cost of goods sold.

How may items have you passed on buying for re-sale because the potential profit margin was too thin because of the FVF?

What sliding scale would attract you?

 

 


Evening,

 

I NEVER had a problem paying the FVF...I had a problem with the continuously changing rules that kept us from being able to plan 6 months in advance in order to be successful enough to pay them.

 

Mr C


Total agreement with that.

 

I also don't list high dollar and vintage merchandise on ebay because ebay is under the belief that my merchandise and money I make from that merchandise is theirs to do with as they please.  And that as a participant in a dispute, my facts and side of the story do not mean a thing.

(*Bleep*)
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@nawlinsron2 wrote:

What sliding scale would attract you? 


Simple answer - any sliding scale that resulted in more profit. 

 

But without you putting up at least a reasonable strawman, IMHO this is a bit of a pointless exercise.   

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I heard that...a seller scorned is an enemy for life.
ebay...did you hear that?
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I NEVER had a problem paying the FVF...I had a problem with the continuously changing rules that kept us from being able to plan 6 months in advance in order to be successful enough to pay them.

 

Lol....fvf's is not such a big deal as opposed to "faulty returns" that sellers must front the return cost for their lying business associate buyers who want a free ride.    I will pay the fvf's, but when a criminal sends me back a rubber band instead of the 14K gold bracelet I sent and ebay snags my money from my payment prossesor that is supposed to be a seperate comapny, I get cranky.  LOL.... Gone.....they are so silly, and I am at peace on another venue.   Truly quit trying to hope after all these years that things would 'get better' around here.  Don't care, moved on. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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When FVFs become even close to an issue for me as whether to list an item or not ... I don’t even bother to list it. There are too many other options that do not incur FVFs or shipping fees at all. It may take longer to sell, but it eventually DOES sell, and no scams, returns, chargebacks or fake snads at all.

I'm ̶p̶r̶e̶t̶t̶y̶ ̶s̶u̶r̶e̶ certain the lunatics have taken over the asylum.
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@ittybitnot wrote:

I NEVER had a problem paying the FVF...I had a problem with the continuously changing rules that kept us from being able to plan 6 months in advance in order to be successful enough to pay them.

 

Lol....fvf's is not such a big deal as opposed to "faulty returns" that sellers must front the return cost for their lying business associate buyers who want a free ride.    I will pay the fvf's, but when a criminal sends me back a rubber band instead of the 14K gold bracelet I sent and ebay snags my money from my payment prossesor that is supposed to be a seperate comapny, I get cranky.  LOL.... Gone.....they are so silly, and I am at peace on another venue.   Truly quit trying to hope after all these years that things would 'get better' around here.  Don't care, moved on. 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Hi Itty,

 

We were very fortunate to never have any returns with issues that I know of, let alone have the item switched etc and be stuck with something because we had to take it back because ebay did not trust us...that would be hard.

 

We did have 2 returns years ago and both of the customers were great. They both misread the listings...one was candles and one was for buckwheat flour...both buyers admitted it and asked if we would take a return. In both cases we did and they paid the shipping and once those goods returned we issued each a full refund.

 

Mr C

 

 

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nawlinsron2 wrote:

FVF is a cost of goods sold.

How may items have you passed on buying for re-sale because the potential profit margin was too thin because of the FVF?

What sliding scale would attract you?

 

 


Ebay's FVF is such a small portion of my selling costs of doing business that I was relieved to shed the brick & mortar stores and how expensive they were!!! to sell here where it was so much less expensive, so this charge has never been a problem for me to cover in my asking price on merchandise.  Obviously the less it is, the nicer.. and FREE would always be good, but the thing I found out is

 

for what I deal in, there are sites which cost less...  but they don't bring me the buyers in remotely the numbers that eBay does.  It doesn't cost quite as much to sell on a few of these sites, but they are dry empty deserts compared to eBay being a lush paradise as far as comparing the sites for buyers.

 

As USPS rates have climbed, I've eased back quite a bit on the large and heavy pieces that I used to deal in routinely, other than the higher-price art pieces or things like that, but little mundane heavy stuff anymore, so I have little worry over the FVF on shipping.  Shipping costs aren't bad, so the fee on that portion of the transaction is easy to cover in asking prices.

 

Mostly the things I find to resell always have plenty of profit left in them, so a few percent off on FVF's is neither here nor there in my consideration.  It just isn't enough to measure into the equation, really.  These days, I still have so much of our own collections to deal in that it has to be something I think is special for some other reason before I buy too much to flip here, other than some of the little stuff that I've dealt forever.  And I know where I get that stuff *real cheap* so there's always profit in it to price it low, flip it fast, and still pocket the profits.

 

But the lower you can get eBay and the other sites to charge us, I'm all for it.  Thumbs up!

 

 

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@nawlinsron2 wrote:
I heard that...a seller scorned is an enemy for life.
ebay...did you hear that?

They aren't an enemy when they still sell here. Some sellers may not appreciated all the rules - but Ebay is still collecting those FVF fees on their sold items - and the scorned sellers are still pocketing cash from their sales here.

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@tunicaslot wrote:

@nawlinsron2 wrote:
I heard that...a seller scorned is an enemy for life.
ebay...did you hear that?

They aren't an enemy when they still sell here. Some sellers may not appreciated all the rules - but Ebay is still collecting those FVF fees on their sold items - and the scorned sellers are still pocketing cash from their sales here.


But I am pocketing so much more on the site I moved my money making genre to.  I pay to list every listing, I only use free listings on ebay, and sell more than I do on ebay and the fvfs are so low that even though I sell 3 times or more than I do on ebay - my monthly fees are almost always less than ebay's.

 

ebay knows I am there.  For the longest time, while the pal was still an ebay subsiderary, all my payments went through the pal.  So ebay could see the money they weren't making off me anymore every month.

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retrose1 wrote:

tunicaslot wrote:

nawlinsron2 wrote:
I heard that...a seller scorned is an enemy for life.
ebay...did you hear that?

They aren't an enemy when they still sell here. Some sellers may not appreciated all the rules - but Ebay is still collecting those FVF fees on their sold items - and the scorned sellers are still pocketing cash from their sales here.


But I am pocketing so much more on the site I moved my money making genre to.  I pay to list every listing, I only use free listings on ebay, and sell more than I do on ebay and the fvfs are so low that even though I sell 3 times or more than I do on ebay - my monthly fees are almost always less than ebay's.

 

ebay knows I am there.  For the longest time, while the pal was still an ebay subsiderary, all my payments went through the pal.  So ebay could see the money they weren't making off me anymore every month.


 

So many eBay sellers are multi-site and multi-platform sellers, I doubt eBay is surprised by any of us having multiple streams of sales income coming in, PayPal or not. 

 

And certainly they can't blame any seller who finds their merchandise simply sells better for them on some other site, or that a seller makes better sales on another site, or prefers one site personally over all the rest.  That's just true of retail sales all over, even our brick and mortar.  All the sites I'm familiar with are all different from each other, sort of all having their own certain *flavor* with what is listed there, and then who shops there, which refines more what sellers offer there, etc... 

 

Ebay is most assuredly not all things for all people, and when sellers deal in merchandise that doesn't do well on eBay, or that isn't safe to sell on eBay, or for whatever reason a seller opts to not confine themselves to just this site, I doubt it's one of eBay's great losses.  Many of us support other sites as well, and find it wonderful to have more of them being sort of specialized in certain areas.

 

Sellers definitely need to know where to focus their efforts if they are selling for the income to support or help support themselves.  In the end, where does it work the best for you?  And then, that's a pretty easy direction to head. 

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Would you buy/list more items if there were a sliding scale for FVF???

Nope.  I already factor in a 10% FVF when deciding whether or not to purchase something for resale.  If I can't factor in all of the necessary fees and still come out with a profit even if I were to whack 25-50% off the retail price, I don't even bother buying.

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