04-23-2018 11:48 AM
Let me preface this by saying I understand that there is not universal acceptance that eBay throttles their sellers; I respect the opinion of those people who feel they do not and hope that they will do me the courtesy of respecting mine and to please not turn this post into a debate about whether or not eBay throttles sellers, to what extent they do, how or why they would do such etc. I do not mean for this to come off as rude, I just would like this thread to stay on point and be an ongoing discussion amongst sellers who believe eBay does throttle us with tips on how to best deal and position ourselves in such an environment.
With that being said, I have a particular listing that up until 2 weeks ago, over the prior 3 months I had sold a whopping total of 5 of these items. About 2 weeks ago I managed to sell 3 in a 2 day period to different buyers. Over the course of the next 2 weeks I sold 19...about 4x the amount in two weeks then I had sold in the prior 3 months!!! This is not an exogenous event, I have seen these types of patterns so many times that I can not possibly think it is an exogenous coincidence.
It seems very obvious to me that if you want sales, you need visibility for your listings. In order to get visibility for your listings you need sales. A classic chicken vs. eg scenario. eBay buries the listings of items that don't sell and give enhanced visibility to those that do. I usually do a few things to circumvent this sort of throttling. (This example above is one of the instances where I did nothing to the listing as an attempt to illustrate my point about eBay throttling. ) But I usually:
1) When an item that doesn't have any sales within a 2-3 week period, I will usually cancel the listing. Instead of "re-listing" I will "sell similar." This way it appears as a new listing.
2) If my sales for a particular item that I have many of are slow, I will run a sale for a 3-4 day period droping the price to pretty much break even after I factor in my shipping, fees etc. While I normally don't like to work for free this way, sometimes dropping the price will drastically will ignite sells over a short time and over the next 4 days I may sell 5 or 6. While it is true that I may not have made any profits, however I:
A) reduce inventory
B) Now have several sales that might help generate more product visibility...so if I originally had it priced at $30 when it wasn't selling and lowered the price to breakeven at $18, now it might start to sell a little more regularly at $24 now that I have a little bit of a track record.
I'd love to hear from other sellers who believe eBay throttles on what they do to deal with it. Again, for those that don't believe in eBay throttling I respect your opinion but I ask that you please not discuss that here. I would be happy to discuss this issue if you would like to start a new post. I would like this thread to stay on topic and be a forum for sellers on how to best position our listings to cope with throttling. It would be quite difficult to add value to this topic if one doesn't believe in eBay throttling to begin with. So again, I hope my desire to stay on point will be respected.
04-25-2018 11:31 AM
I an tell you by my home state that with Babies R US and Toys R US going out of business and other stores slashing their prices, people can go to these stores and purchase new for less than they can buy on ebay.
My DIL is going to a baby shower and stopped by to show me all the designer clothes she was able to find on sale.
04-25-2018 12:36 PM
How do you see my post as having a chip on my shoulder? I said I'm listening. My sales have died and I'd like to know if there is anything I can do to improve my listings.
Starting this week, I'm lotting up as much as I can into big lots on auction to move out my inventory. I'm also giving a lot of it away to people I know and the rest to a charity that gives away clothes and diapers to poor families.
But in the meantime, kids clothes is what I have, so that is what I need to sell. I check the boards daily to see if there is something I can change. I've checked my keywords, run sales, lowered prices, raised prices. Nothing seems to work.
04-25-2018 12:37 PM
Blu - good for you! If you're doing that well, I have a question for you. Have you tried using the promotional option for your lines? If you have, what is your opinion of it?
04-25-2018 02:13 PM
Someone brought up the "Best Match" filter on search results. That is always my default search sort. To me, that is the easiest way for results to be "throttled". Whenever I search something, and "Best Match" comes back, it's usually the seller with the most sales (based on the #sold red banner on the listing). But sometimes it's not. Sometimes it's the result matching the most keywords, or sometimes it seems even random (no way for me to determine how it's a "best match" for my search).
So, my question is, does anyone know how "best match" is determined? Is it supposed to be by keywords, or number of sales, or something else? One would assume if you sort by "lowest price" or "newly listed", the results would truely be sorted as such, regardless of number sales, popularity of a seller, etc. But "best match" is where I can see a whole lot of wiggle room for ebay. And conveniently, it appears to be the default search sort order. If buyers never bother to change that, then your item may end up being buried. But again, one would hope if you have the lowest price, when you sort by that, yours should be the number 1 listing, regardless of any other factors.
04-25-2018 02:18 PM - last edited on 04-25-2018 05:38 PM by kh-gary
Great Job and well put.
Rich
04-25-2018 02:29 PM
If you could only pick one word to describe what you're selling what word would that be? Myself I'd guess wetsuit since you're the seller what word would you use?
04-25-2018 02:34 PM
I've owned the buzzword Fratelli Toso for about 72 hours just to see the chucks line up at the end. Being retired I just do it for funzies now...
04-25-2018 03:32 PM
Yes I have used it. Not sure how much it helps with visibility on its own but I know ebay likes sellers to use it as it might generate more money for them so they might give sellers who use it better visibility if that makes sense. Essentially ebay makes the rules so I'm trying to do what they want but it feels almost like extortion to me. It is funny that ebay is so against duplicate listings from sellers but this is what promoted listings essentially are!
04-25-2018 03:34 PM
Wetsuits
04-25-2018 05:18 PM
Funny that they all seem to think that anyone who believes in throttling must be some sort of a noob who isn't making any sales and that they are going to bestow some nuggets of wisdom.
I'm the first one to admit that I have more to learn and there some things I could be doing better. But I've seen too many instances where I'll have a wetsuit that wil sell great but then I'll run out of inventory in a particular size or for some reason I'll experience a slowdown with no sales in it for a week or so. Getting them back on track is much much much harder as ebay now has that wetsuit buried at the bottom of page 3. But it isn't throttling, its because I indicate that my wetsuit will be sent in "discrete packaging." LOL!
04-25-2018 05:52 PM
Since its wetsuit use this sight to see whos snagging the sales and try and beat them to the punch.... http://www.watchcount.com/mw2.php
04-25-2018 06:07 PM
Interesting, thanks. Never seen this site before.
04-25-2018 06:15 PM
I could go into great detail as to what the other folks are doing that puts them at the top of the heap,but then I'd get slapped for providing that info so I'll just show you where to start you'll have to figure out the rest and the triggers used...
04-26-2018 05:18 AM
I'll buy all your 1st printing King HCs for $20 just make me a list
04-27-2018 04:34 AM
No?
No It for $20.
How about Christine?