05-03-2020 05:13 AM
I am currently dealing with a scammer. They made an offer on an item. I countered and they accepted. However, payment was never received. I filed a non-payment case with eBay. The supposed buyer then contacts me and tells me that they forgot to pay and they still wanted the item but eBay would not accept their payment. I then closed the non-payment transaction. They then sent me an angry email because I closed out the non-payment case and reported them, saying good luck in trying to sell the item in this economy, etc. Then I got an eBay message saying they were sick and couldn't pay. Then another message saying they paid and included the information about their payment to a PayPal account with a yahoo email. Shortly after that, they opened a case against me on eBay stating they paid for the item with the Yahoo Paypal account and they did not receive it.
05-03-2020 05:18 AM
You may also want to add this winner on your blocked buyer's list so that he may not attempt to purchase anything more from you.
05-03-2020 07:58 AM
...you should let your "Unpaid Item" case closed by eBay instead of canceled it by yourself...too late and now you have to deal with this unpleasant buyer...
...btw, did you get the buyer's payment...?...if so, just ship the item ASAP and submit the tracking number in response to their claim...
...block the buyer from now on...(already, someone just suggested...)
...good luck...
05-03-2020 10:37 AM
05-03-2020 10:40 AM
That info was fake. If you dont see the payment in your paypal, it want paid
05-03-2020 10:45 AM
@bbravo65 wrote:
...you should let your "Unpaid Item" case closed by eBay instead of canceled it by yourself...too late and now you have to deal with this unpleasant buyer...
...btw, did you get the buyer's payment...?...if so, just ship the item ASAP and submit the tracking number in response to their claim...
...block the buyer from now on...(already, someone just suggested...)
...good luck...
Sellers do not wait for eBay to close unpaid item cases unless they are using the unpaid item assistant. If eBay closes the case opened manually by the seller it means it expired and no final value fee is issued and the buyer doesn't get a strike.
05-03-2020 10:51 AM
...you should let your "Unpaid Item" case closed by eBay instead of canceled it by yourself...too late and now you have to deal with this unpleasant buyer...
Why? What difference does it make other than timing? A buyer doesn't see if the seller closed the claim or if Ebay did, which that wouldn't really matter either.
If the seller manually opened the UID, they can close it 96 hours and 1 minute after they opened it if no payment has arrived. If they wait and let Ebay close the claim when it ages, then they will be waiting 30 days. Why would that be better? If they are using the automated assistant, it will depend on how they have it set up as to when it will close the claim.
05-03-2020 10:54 AM
You will be fine. The buyer can't prove they paid, because they didn't pay. There is no such thing as Yahoo PP. Just stick to what you know. You filed a UID and you closed it because no payment arrived. That protects your FB and refunds you your selling fees.
Just make sure you respond to the claim they filed and state what happened inside the claim. It will either age out or if the buyer is silly enough to ask Ebay to step in, Ebay will close it in your favor. The buyer can't win this kind of claim. It is a scare tactic in the hopes they can bully the seller into shipping.
05-03-2020 11:23 AM
...how could the buyer didn't see the case closed..?
...they have too as eBay will notify them and put a record on their account for not paying isn't it...?
...when I responded to this topic I forgot to ask the OP if he/she set up the automatic unpaid item case...my bad...sorry...!
05-03-2020 11:31 AM
@bbravo65 wrote:
...how could the buyer didn't see the case closed..?
...they have too as eBay will notify them and put a record on their account for not paying isn't it...?
...when I responded to this topic I forgot to ask the OP if he/she set up the automatic unpaid item case...my bad...sorry...!
That isn't what I asked you about. Your previous post you said "...you should let your "Unpaid Item" case closed by eBay instead of canceled it by yourself...too late and now you have to deal with this unpleasant buyer..." And I responded with this: Why? What difference does it make other than timing? A buyer doesn't see if the seller closed the claim or if Ebay did, which that wouldn't really matter either.
So my questions still stand.
05-03-2020 11:51 AM - edited 05-03-2020 11:51 AM
...my point is...was the OP "under dog" for cancelling the unpaid item case and buyer could see that an "upper hand" to mess around since the cancellation wasn't from eBay...?
...in general, will sellers get less supportive when self-closing early an unpaid item case...?
05-03-2020 11:54 AM
@bbravo65 wrote:
...my point is...was the OP "under dog" for cancelling the unpaid item case and buyer could see that an "upper hand" to mess around since the cancellation wasn't from eBay...?
...in general, will sellers get less supportive when self-closing early an unpaid item case...?
That still does not answer my questions.
With that said, the OP did not say they cancelled the UID. They said they closed it for non payment which is what made the buyer angry.
05-03-2020 12:05 PM
@searay9451 wrote:I am currently dealing with a scammer. They made an offer on an item. I countered and they accepted. However, payment was never received. I filed a non-payment case with eBay. The supposed buyer then contacts me and tells me that they forgot to pay and they still wanted the item but eBay would not accept their payment. I then closed the non-payment transaction.
I'm not understanding this part, but the buyer's claim about being unable to pay is nonsense. It appears that you opened the Unpaid Item case yourself, not using the automated Unpaid Item Assistant. How much time went by after you opened the UPI before you closed it? It would need to be longer than four full days (96 hours) before closing it so that you can get your Final Value Fees credited, and the deadbeat buyer gets a strike.
@searay9451 wrote:They then sent me an angry email because I closed out the non-payment case and reported them, saying good luck in trying to sell the item in this economy, etc. Then I got an eBay message saying they were sick and couldn't pay.
I don't think eBay would really send you a message saying that. What would be the point? What was that message asking you to do?
@searay9451 wrote:Then another message saying they paid and included the information about their payment to a PayPal account with a yahoo email. Shortly after that, they opened a case against me on eBay stating they paid for the item with the Yahoo Paypal account and they did not receive it.
Okay, it sounds like they are saying that the Yahoo address is their PayPal account ID; is that correct? If you do not see a payment from them in the correct amount in your PayPal account, you have not been paid. They can file an Item Not Received dispute as you describe, and of course there is no tracking number to upload because you have not been paid, but there is also no money that could be refunded to them from PayPal, because they have not actually paid anything to you, so this case would time out by itself.
Have you verified that the email address you have for payment is correctly placed in your listing, with no typing errors? You can verify that by clicking Sell Similar on your listing, and then scrolling down the listing form to see where you provided your PayPal contact address for payments. Make sure that you have it exactly correct.
05-03-2020 02:16 PM
...either you don't want to see my point or you trying to back me into the corner which I can't figure out but...I give up so you can say the last winning words...how's about that...???
...thank you...!!!
05-03-2020 02:26 PM
@bbravo65 wrote:
...either you don't want to see my point or you trying to back me into the corner which I can't figure out but...I give up so you can say the last winning words...how's about that...???
...thank you...!!!
No not at all. You said the OP cancelled the UID, but that isn't what they said. You said sellers should let Ebay close UIDs and I simply asked why? What makes it better to do that over a seller closing it?
It's up to you to answer the question or not. But I'm not trying to do anything other than understand what you are trying to say.