06-27-2020 09:00 AM
Last night I was on my laptop and I noticed it gave some error message I believe it was something like,
KERNEL DATA INPAGE ERROR. It then started automatically to shut down. It was taking long to shut down so I think I pressed a button or something to make it automatically shut down and then when I got back on, I went on the internet and it started making a loud sound so I think I tried pressing buttons to shut it down, and it started to automatically shut down, so I just let it go until it completely shut down, and then logged back in. Right now I am able to go on with no real problem. Does anyone know if this is a serious issue with my laptop?
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06-29-2020 01:19 PM
@mozartbach1971 wrote:That's a pretty extreme example of what can happen (and WHY backups are so important). When I was doing Mac support and later with Windows for the company I worked for, I did a lot of HD clean-up - every single disc had bad sectors - none in critical areas, but it was usually a case of 'when' not 'if.'
Is there any test that can show that the issue is a bad sector?
You can keep searching for some indicator that everything is fine if you like but just know that you're on borrowed time and rolling the dice.
It might limp along for quite some time....or it might crash this weekend after you've created your auctions. Nobody can tell you how long it will be ok.
You're lucky. You got a warning shot across the bow.
06-27-2020 09:03 AM
I googled the phrase and it looks innocent...
"The kernel data inpage error is a Windows error code displayed on a blue screen. When this error occurs, your computer will typically compile some diagnostic data and then restart. ... Kernel data inpage errors are usually associated with hardware failures related to memory modules and hard drives."
06-27-2020 09:09 AM
oooh, last time I saw a kernel message I was running Windows ME. Haven't seen that one in ages. It's been about 18 years, but if I remember correctly my hard drive was failing. It was making a loud, grinding whine
06-27-2020 09:47 AM - edited 06-27-2020 09:48 AM
Causes of this Error
This error has been known to occur as a result of one or more of the following:
Cause 1: System memory is failing
The most common cause of this error is RAM (Random-Access memory) failing repeatedly on a read/write attempt.
Cause 2: Disk file system integrity compromised
Another possible cause for this error is a damaged file system. This may happen because of disk read/write errors, power outages or virus attacks.
Fixing “0x0000007a” on Windows
Fix #1: Run chkdsk
If the 0x0000007a error is triggered by a bad sector on your hard drive, running the chkdsk tool will help in identifying and fixing the issue.
Follow these steps to run the chkdsk tool:
chkdsk C: /f /r
Replace C: with the letter of the drive where Windows is installed.
Your computer may need to restart to run the chkdsk tool.
Fix #2: Check System Log in Event Viewer
The Event View tool can help you identify the device that’s causing the 0x0000007a error to appear.
To access the Event Viewer’s logs, follow these steps:
Fix #3: Run Memory Diagnostics Tool
The Memory Diagnostics Tool allows you to check if your RAM memory has any issues that can cause the 0x0000007a error to appear.
To access Memory Diagnostics Tool, follow these steps:
If none of the above fixes are working for your PC to fix the 0x0000007a error, try the following tips:
https://neosmart.net/wiki/0x0000007a-kernel-data-inpage-error/
06-27-2020 10:38 AM
06-27-2020 11:30 AM
@toysaver wrote:I googled the phrase and it looks innocent...
"The kernel data inpage error is a Windows error code displayed on a blue screen. When this error occurs, your computer will typically compile some diagnostic data and then restart. ... Kernel data inpage errors are usually associated with hardware failures related to memory modules and hard drives."
I agree, this indicates a potential hardware failure in your future.
Your best course of action is to backup the laptop immediately and make sure to maintain current backups on a VERY regular basis.
If it's a fairly old laptop consider replacing it, probably cheaper to buy a lower end new unit to replace it than to replace components in the existing machine.
If you are using a desktop as your primary computer and just use the laptop as a secondary machine then maybe you can get away with just going along until it actually fails.
Keep in mind, when a harddrive fails it can be sudden AND unrecoverable (at least not easily or cheaply).
06-27-2020 11:38 AM
@slippinjimmy wrote:
@toysaver wrote:I googled the phrase and it looks innocent...
"The kernel data inpage error is a Windows error code displayed on a blue screen. When this error occurs, your computer will typically compile some diagnostic data and then restart. ... Kernel data inpage errors are usually associated with hardware failures related to memory modules and hard drives."
I agree, this indicates a potential hardware failure in your future.
Your best course of action is to backup the laptop immediately and make sure to maintain current backups on a VERY regular basis.
If it's a fairly old laptop consider replacing it, probably cheaper to buy a lower end new unit to replace it than to replace components in the existing machine.
If you are using a desktop as your primary computer and just use the laptop as a secondary machine then maybe you can get away with just going along until it actually fails.
Keep in mind, when a harddrive fails it can be sudden AND unrecoverable (at least not easily or cheaply).
Good advice.
I asked the questions I did because I seem to recall previous posts by the OP mentioning problems with very old hardware and an outdated, unsupported OS.
06-27-2020 11:41 AM
@mozartbach1971 wrote:Last night I was on my laptop and I noticed it gave some error message I believe it was something like,
KERNEL DATA INPAGE ERROR. It then started automatically to shut down. It was taking long to shut down so I think I pressed a button or something to make it automatically shut down and then when I got back on, I went on the internet and it started making a loud sound so I think I tried pressing buttons to shut it down,
Your wording lost me regarding how you "pressed a button or something" to shut down the machine, unless you were trying so many things at once that you can't tell which one worked. The usual way to force a hard panic shutdown on a Windows box is to press and hold the Power button until the machine abruptly shuts off. This takes about five seconds of holding the button down until you see that occur.
I agree with the others here that the hard drive is failing, especially when you're hearing unusual noises. You might extend its life a bit by making sure that the machine is not overheating (sit it on stacked CD cases or something so that its cooling vents on the underside are not obstructed), and don't leave it running 24/7 if not necessary, but otherwise you should be planning where to transfer your hard drive contents while you are still able to do so.
06-27-2020 12:08 PM
This ^^^ I've also seen this in overheating equipment. Check the fan outlets.
06-27-2020 12:27 PM
How old is your laptop?
What OS are you using?
I'm not sure how old it is exactly. I think I bought it around 2015. I'm using Windows 10.
06-27-2020 12:38 PM
Your wording lost me regarding how you "pressed a button or something" to shut down the machine, unless you were trying so many things at once that you can't tell which one worked. The usual way to force a hard panic shutdown on a Windows box is to press and hold the Power button until the machine abruptly shuts off. This takes about five seconds of holding the button down until you see that occur.
I agree with the others here that the hard drive is failing, especially when you're hearing unusual noises. You might extend its life a bit by making sure that the machine is not overheating (sit it on stacked CD cases or something so that its cooling vents on the underside are not obstructed), and don't leave it running 24/7 if not necessary, but otherwise you should be planning where to transfer your hard drive contents while you are still able to do so.
I think I was doing whatever I could to shut it down, while it was apparently automatically shutting down. I think I held the power button until it did shut down. It then took me to a page where I put in my pass word and then I went onto the internet, and a short time later I believe it froze and made a very loud noise so I think I hit control alt delete several times to shut it down, however I think it shut down automatically and then now, I'm able to go back on OK with so far no problems.
06-27-2020 12:51 PM
I agree, this indicates a potential hardware failure in your future.
Your best course of action is to backup the laptop immediately and make sure to maintain current backups on a VERY regular basis.
If it's a fairly old laptop consider replacing it, probably cheaper to buy a lower end new unit to replace it than to replace components in the existing machine.
If you are using a desktop as your primary computer and just use the laptop as a secondary machine then maybe you can get away with just going along until it actually fails.
Keep in mind, when a harddrive fails it can be sudden AND unrecoverable (at least not easily or cheaply).
I went to my Wonderlister listing program and did a backup on this software, it contains all the Ebay items I'm working on that I have not listed yet. If the hard drive fails. Will this allow me to recover all the listings?
06-27-2020 02:14 PM
If Wonderlister backs you listings up onto their own servers or into cloud storage, you'll be able to retrieve those listings. If the back up is just onto your own drive, you will lose them if your hard drive goes out.
06-27-2020 04:45 PM
Run a malware scan to be sure its not a virus.
06-27-2020 07:13 PM
@mozartbach1971 wrote:Last night I was on my laptop and I noticed it gave some error message I believe it was something like,
KERNEL DATA INPAGE ERROR. It then started automatically to shut down. It was taking long to shut down so I think I pressed a button or something to make it automatically shut down and then when I got back on, I went on the internet and it started making a loud sound so I think I tried pressing buttons to shut it down,
Your wording lost me regarding how you "pressed a button or something" to shut down the machine, unless you were trying so many things at once that you can't tell which one worked. The usual way to force a hard panic shutdown on a Windows box is to press and hold the Power button until the machine abruptly shuts off. This takes about five seconds of holding the button down until you see that occur.
I agree with the others here that the hard drive is failing, especially when you're hearing unusual noises. You might extend its life a bit by making sure that the machine is not overheating (sit it on stacked CD cases or something so that its cooling vents on the underside are not obstructed), and don't leave it running 24/7 if not necessary, but otherwise you should be planning where to transfer your hard drive contents while you are still able to do so.
I only heard the loud noise once, I think that was because possibly that I interrupted the automatic shutdown by forcing the shutdown. I'm not sure there are any openings at the bottom that open up, I guess I can look closer for them. I'll try not to leave it on past 24 hours. I heard that there is some kind of software you can buy for around $30 that can check if there any hard drive problems on your computer. Is this true? Can anyone recommend one that works?