08-24-2019 09:28 AM - edited 08-24-2019 09:30 AM
I sell one-of-a-kind items and an item I had sold many months ago unbeknownst to me was listed in my store and purchased yesterday. Naturally, I did not have the item, so I called into ebay to discuss with a specialist the best way of going about avoiding a transaction defect on my account upon refunding the payment for being out of stock.
The ebay specialist Grace -- who over the years I have spoken with on other issues -- told me that I will not be stuck with a transaction defect or negative feedback as long as I send a message in advance to the buyer before refunding the item with the out-of-stock reason. In the message, I had to let the buyer know that I need to refund her and why and ask her to respond acknowledging that she received my message, essentially treating the situation as a request. Grace told me that her response would constitute an agreement with me that she accepts the refund, and that "agreement" would ensure that ebay would not hit me with a defect and could also remove any negative feedback that may follow.
I sent the message yesterday and have not received a response, and would think that it would have serviced the buyer better to have simply refunded the item without delay rather than what is turning out to be a grace period.
08-24-2019 06:50 PM
@pjcdn2005 wrote:
@nc-daydreamer wrote:Do you have your OOS option turned on? have you checked this listing, and ALL OOS listings to be sure the quantity available is 0 ?
If this is set to 0, then the item is supposed to be hidden from buyers as far as I know - and I have seen where the buy it button was removed from an OOS listing so it could not be purchased.
There have been threads from buyers asking why there was no buy button in a listing they were considering to buy. So that confirms the button has been removed from those listings. So if you were at 0 on a hidden listing, it should not have been able to be purchased. I know eBay will figure out a way to give you a defect on something that is clearly their fault. Way to go eBay - I am sorry this is happening to you.
Perhaps you can back up these OOS item listings or just print your whole listing pages from the hub with the quantity displayed to prove the item is supposed to be hidden from viewers? Or screenshot and save to WORD.There has to be some way... try calling CS again to get another rep and double check on these things...
I wish you well.
I have no idea why a listing wouldn't have a buy it now button but if the seller has the out of stock function enabled and an item has 0 inventory, that listing isn't shown to the buyer at all.
The listing shouldn't be seen, but it does happen.
I've come across some that showed 0 in stock and no buy button, but was still able to view the live listing.
08-24-2019 07:46 PM
@this*old*attic wrote:How unprofessional. And we wonder why buyers are leaving. Seller’s problems are not the buyer’s problem, we aren’t friends, and to essentially try to coax a stranger to fib and cover one’s behind is.... well.
I just broke a contract with a cleaning service because their maids kept trying to make cheaper cash deals with me on the side. This is the same thing.
How unprofessional of ebay to relist sold items (and don't say it never happens, because it does).
08-24-2019 07:55 PM
Oh, I agree, but it is what it is. And involving our ever dwindling buyer base isn’t the solution.
One demerit never hurt anyone, anyway. There’s a fair sized margin.
08-24-2019 08:19 PM
You should care more about your shop. The shop you have no goods, you can not manage it ???
08-24-2019 10:28 PM
Follow-up: Seller was agreeable and all ended well. I sent her a coupon code for my store for the inconvenience of not having the item.
08-25-2019 07:59 AM
08-25-2019 08:11 AM
08-25-2019 10:32 AM
I am from the older days when buyer and seller worked it out themselves. No need to get ebay involved. We looked out for each other; we weren't punitive. We didn't demand, we asked. We tried to come to a mutual understanding. Ever been to a market where an item is on sale and they run out of it. You don't call the authorities; you ask for and are given a raincheck.
08-25-2019 10:34 AM
Of course they are but mistakes happen. Honest mistakes. Buyers can be very understanding when you are upfront with them.
08-25-2019 10:36 AM
Exactly. And as a buyer I wouldn't hold that against a seller. If ebay is relisting them, then that should not be OOS for which there is a penalty but a glitch that ebay should take the blame for,
08-25-2019 10:38 AM
Why should a seller get a demerit he didn't cause. And what happens when it occurs again. And if the seller does make that one mistake --it is now 3 demerits and he loses his livelihood.
08-25-2019 10:39 AM
Perfect. Good for you and your buyer. I have found the less you get ebay involved the better.