Is this a scam?

[ateliercouture]

I just sold a platinum diamond ring on Ebay and am afraid that I may get scammed. I've listed the ring several times and it didn't sell, but all of a sudden today I had two offers on the ring, both offers higher than the starting price which was $3,200. A woman messaged me this morning to ask if I have the original certificate for the ring. I responded that I do and minutes later someone else bought the ring using BIN and paid over 4K for it. The payment was made through pay pal. I called pay pal and they told me the payment is legitimate and they told me the name of the man who made the payment which is the same as the person who purchased it. Then after the ring sold, the woman who contacted me this morning, messaged me again to ask if I would accept $3,800 for the ring. This all seems fishy to me. I googled the buyer of the ring and he seems legitimate. He is a personal trainer with his own business and there was even a picture of him on his website. What do you seasoned sellers think? Btw, the buyer has 0 feedbacks and created his Ebay account yesterday. 

[bin9711]

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@ateliercouture wrote:

I want to add some information that I just found out. A woman  contacted me this morning to ask if I have the original certificate and she contacted me again after the ring was sold. She offered to buy it for $3,800 pretending she didn't know it is sold. She is from the same town as the man who purchased the ring. I found that out by looking at the items she is selling and it said they are located in this little town in WY. This town has a population of 5,000 so clearly these people know each other. What should I do? Should I ship the ring? Clearly they are trying to scam me in some way, but don't know how they would get away with it. 

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I bet you it's a engaged couple and they both went shopping for the ring, he decided just to buy it outright rather than risking losing it at auction

[larestreasuresandthrifts]

This is exactly what I think may be happening. Sometimes when I like something I will do the asking and then my husband will pay from his account.

[fashunu4eeuh]

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@ateliercouture wrote:

The BIN was $4160. I just rounded it up in my post. How can the buyer scam me if I send it insured with signature request to the address that is verified? 

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I see others answered your question. 

This is a tough call and i feel for you. I think it boils down to what your gut tells you. Do you take the risk and ship, banking on the buyer’s honesty? Or take the defect and cancel the sale, losing the cash money in your account now?

You could reach out and talk with the buyer personally by pulling his contact information. See how it shakes out. It might give you more insight. But there is no way around the risk. It’s there and only you can decide what your risk tolerance is.

Wishing you all the best. Please let us know how you resolve your sale and its outcome.

[penguins_dont_fly]

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@bin9711 wrote:

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@ateliercouture wrote:

I want to add some information that I just found out. A woman  contacted me this morning to ask if I have the original certificate and she contacted me again after the ring was sold. She offered to buy it for $3,800 pretending she didn't know it is sold. She is from the same town as the man who purchased the ring. I found that out by looking at the items she is selling and it said they are located in this little town in WY. This town has a population of 5,000 so clearly these people know each other. What should I do? Should I ship the ring? Clearly they are trying to scam me in some way, but don't know how they would get away with it. 

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I bet you it's a engaged couple and they both went shopping for the ring, he decided just to buy it outright rather than risking losing it at auction

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Or a married couple.

He created the account to hide the purchase from her 🙂

[softersilk]

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@fashunu4eeuh wrote:

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@softersilk wrote:

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@sam9876 wrote:

"How can the buyer scam me if I send it insured with signature request to the address that is verified? "

The buyer can file a false SNAD complaint and return a rock.

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Or switch out the diamond with a shiny CZ that looks pretty good.

I'm concerned that the buyer just signed up for eBay.  

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A no history buyer is not more likely to be a scammer than a high feedback buyer. 

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I disagree when it comes to really expensive stuff.  Scammers go through ID's like water.  They start up new ones when they've run a lot of scams on an old one.  Seriously, would someone sign up on eBay on Day one and spend $4,200?

[bin9711]

Someone who wants to surprise someone else with a gift.

[sharingtheland]

Over the years, I have had a few buyers who sincerely thought "Best Offer" meant what they would be willing to pay, even if it was over the listed price.