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Is it true, once you go Express you can't go back?


I haven't changed a thing in my account since the dawn of Managed Payments.  When the Express thing started, I was kind of interested because the % fee seemed reasonable and I probably wouldn't need to do it often anyway.  But at that time, I think I was told (here) that you can only get Express withdrawals if your (regular) payment schedule is at least weekly; you couldn't do them if you were on daily payments or on-demand payments like I am.  Also if you switched, you couldn't switch back.  I think I remember some people found out the hard way and were really ticked off about it.
 
Tonight I noticed that the ad banner now says the Express payouts are a flat $2 fee, so I got curious again.  Well now I am ALL KINDS OF CONFUSED.   

The help pages seem to conflate Express Payouts with On Demand in multiple ways.  Talks about OD being 30 minutes with a fee, but right below it describes OD as 1-3 days (no mention of a fee).  AND the requirements of getting OD seem to indicate you can only opt to take an OD payout if you're on a schedule of no less than weekly.  But I'm not on a schedule AT ALL.  My payouts are PURELY On Demand, as frequently or infrequently as I want them!  How did that happen?  

Are these these help sections just all kinds of messed up?  Or am I "grandfathered-in" with a payout situation that the help language no longer describes?  Or both?  

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But I'm STILL interested in Express.  And it appears to say you can have it even if you get OD payments; you don't have to be on any of the scheduled ones.  But it also seems to say if you switch to this, ALL your payouts will cost $2.   I might not mind that, as long as I still get to decide WHEN I take them.  And if they're all going to cost $2 then they all better be instant, no more 1-3 days. 

The most ideal, best case scenario: I can let my sales pile up for 4 days, 9 days, whatever, and take all or some of it.  Then if I want take more the next day.  Like an ATM basically.  

Worst case scenario: I get shoved into weekly payments or whatever, AND have to pay $2 each time, and also is it true that if you switch to Express, you can't switch back?  

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Is it true, once you go Express you can't go back?

I so wished it would work, not only for myself but because you've spent so much time trying to help.  And you DID affirm that I'm not stupid; the Help documents on this stuff are wack AF, also how this should work (when it works), and it makes total sense the way you explain it.  .... However, the thing I feared would happen came true, in fact worse than I imagined.  

So, starting with the invitation banner, I clicked Add Debit Card, and entered it on the form.  But clicking Continue only caused a brief spinner and then nothing; card details still entered and fresh Continue button to hit, but no a second hit didn't work.  And there was no error flag.  But I did check and recheck the card and address details of course -all correct.   
 
The thing I worried about before -my debit card already being on file- that would seem to be the most obvious problem. 

So I figured I'll just delete the card and start over.  BTW it's disturbing how when you delete a card you get a popup that says 'We'll still charge this card for outstanding balances even after you delete it' (it even said that about an old expired card from a closed account that I still had on file when I deleted it yesterday, just to take it out of the picture).   So then I went back to the banner to start over, entered the card in that same popup, got the same brief Continue spinner, with no joy.  

So then I tried to just re-add the card to the payments page by clicking a + box, figuring at worst I'll just be back where I started.  
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That seemed to work, in fact it gave me these exciting things, in this order:

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But EGHHHHH!  No dice.  So now I just have my checking account ONLY on file.  Do you think they require TWO debit cards -one exclusively for checkout, auctions, offers and selling costs, and the other exclusively for Express payouts?

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Is it true, once you go Express you can't go back?

@gurlcat oh no! So sorry it isn't working and has made it even worse. 😞

 

Only thing I can suggest is it's Thursday and there seem to be other maintenance day gremlins happening (see other posts about image upload/editing issues) so maybe give it a few hours or until tomorrow and try again?

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Is it true, once you go Express you can't go back?

Oh also I'm a dummy and can't believe I forgot this, but is that debit card linked to an actual, physical/traditional bank account?

 

I remember now when it first rolled out some people thought it would be a work around to get money in their PayPal accounts by using the PayPal debit card but that didn't work and if I recall correctly it also may not work for cards going to other similar online/virtual "banks" or payment services like Chime.

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Is it true, once you go Express you can't go back?

BINGO, lol!  But don't feel bad; it's been eons and a pandemic since all this started.  Also I just SUCCESSFULLY re-added the card, but just as a 'checkout' account.  So now I don't seem to have an official method for paying seller costs, but then I don't think I did before either, still this card DID get charged for shipping labels few times, when my spendable funds weren't enough.   It's all so strange.  

As for Express payouts requiring a BAM bank affiliation, assuming that is true, how frigggin hard would it be for them to include that fact in the Help pages, or AT LEAST cited as the reason in the red rejection banner?   And how much you wanna bet that a phone CSR wouldn't know it either?  

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Is it true, once you go Express you can't go back?

I'm so glad I don't need my $$$ right away, what a mess.

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Is it true, once you go Express you can't go back?

I didn't use to need it so quickly either, but my sales haven't been great lately so now I'm facing various late fees and even cutoff clocks.  Totally sucks, especially with ones that treat weekend and holiday days like any other.  

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