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Is eBay poised to pass Amazon in Internet Sales???

From a C/Net article:

"Amazon on Monday confirmed that it's significantly delaying US deliveries of nonessential items, as part of its effort to get more medical supplies and household staples to its customers during the coronavirus pandemic. According to product listings on its website, some of these shipments will be delayed by as much as a month."
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One advantage eBay has is that it's Sellers are individual accounts, NOT warehouse based.  With Amazon "delaying" shipments on non-essential items as much as a month perhaps Buyers will be less likely to purchase from them not wanting to wait that long?!?  If eBay Sellers can still ship their items they stand a good chance of having their sales increase IMHO.
 
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I agree, interesting article.  What I got out of it was also the fact that it seems Amazon has the ability to make major changes on their platform quickly and thoroughly. 

It just made me wonder why it takes ebay so much longer to fix the ebay platform glitches, problems, issues? Some issues are years-old problems. 

I'm not a computer techie so am just asking this off the cuff.

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There’s a huge difference between data and coding. Amazon delaying delivery is not changing the site. It’s changing some data somewhere in a file. 

Changing coding in a complicated site means finding the issue, figuring out the implications of changes, making the Change then testing not only the change but anything else affected by the change. 

AND everything has to be prioritized. Amazon shipping is mission critical. eBay changing an annoying bug is nice but hardly mission critical. 

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@picknparley   I suspect the Amazon platform and all their locations pretty much use the same hardware and software and it's probably more up to date ... its a massive warehouse inventory system in basic terms.  eBay's platform relies on individual sellers all using different systems and different operating systems so when they make a change to their platform it needs to be able to work with all of the.

 

 

 

 

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A few days ago, I bought a USB cable from eBay. It was shipped same day from Ca. and arrived the very next day.

Amazon offered 3 day shipping, so eBay won that round.

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In terms of GMV, the disparity between ebay and Amazon is too great for ebay to pass Amazon. However, it is certainly possible that ebay could end up with an uptick in y/y sales volume. But I think it's way too soon to predict that, because it's way too soon to predict the effects of the virus on the overall economy. As for me, I'll he happy if I can maintain a decent level of sales. If I can significantly increase my sales, I'll be thrilled. That will depend on both what I do and what the economy does. I can only control the first one, so that's where my focus is.
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@my-cottage-books-and-antiques wrote:
In terms of GMV, the disparity between ebay and Amazon is too great for ebay to pass Amazon. However, it is certainly possible that ebay could end up with an uptick in y/y sales volume. But I think it's way too soon to predict that, because it's way too soon to predict the effects of the virus on the overall economy. As for me, I'll he happy if I can maintain a decent level of sales. If I can significantly increase my sales, I'll be thrilled. That will depend on both what I do and what the economy does. I can only control the first one, so that's where my focus is.

Good perspective ... locally the issue is acquiring inventory.  What is shut down for resellers of vintage, antique and collectible items includes thrift stores, consignment shops, live estate auctions, online auctions, etc.  Some online auctions can offer shipping but pick up is preferable in many cases since it costs less money in gas to go get a trunk full of stuff compared to their shipping rates. 

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mr_lincoln, The thrifts stores, antique malls etc are all shut down around here. However, I have more than enough non-listed inventory here to last a good long time. I know my situation is not unique, and I also do realize that other sellers are having a hard time finding inventory. I wish I had better advice, but my advice is the same many non-sellers are getting who can't get to a brick and mortar store for their basics: search online. There are bargains to be had. Best of luck to you!
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@mr_lincoln wrote:

@picknparley   I suspect the Amazon platform and all their locations pretty much use the same hardware and software and it's probably more up to date ... its a massive warehouse inventory system in basic terms.  eBay's platform relies on individual sellers all using different systems and different operating systems so when they make a change to their platform it needs to be able to work with all of the.

 


Their inventory is all catalogued and given an ASIN (Amazon Standard Identification Number), similar to an ISBN or UPC product identification number. Any changes can be made pretty simply and quickly due to this cataloging system. 


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Yes, I understand how Amazon is set up. My comment was geared more towards the ability to implement IT changes on their massive site in a short time. Ebay takes weeks, and sometimes years, to make the proper fixes to this site. 

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"The thrifts stores, antique malls etc are all shut down around here. However, I have more than enough non-listed inventory here to last a good long time. I know my situation is not unique, and I also do realize that other sellers are having a hard time finding inventory. I wish I had better advice, but my advice is the same many non-sellers are getting who can't get to a brick and mortar store for their basics: search online. There are bargains to be had. Best of luck to you!"

 

So true, I am also sitting on a stash of inventory. I have seen my sales of non-essential items, not including my Easter items, increase over the past week.  I hope this trend continues----- mama's gotta eat.

 

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@mr_lincoln wrote:

@my-cottage-books-and-antiques wrote:
In terms of GMV, the disparity between ebay and Amazon is too great for ebay to pass Amazon. However, it is certainly possible that ebay could end up with an uptick in y/y sales volume. But I think it's way too soon to predict that, because it's way too soon to predict the effects of the virus on the overall economy. As for me, I'll he happy if I can maintain a decent level of sales. If I can significantly increase my sales, I'll be thrilled. That will depend on both what I do and what the economy does. I can only control the first one, so that's where my focus is.

Good perspective ... locally the issue is acquiring inventory.  What is shut down for resellers of vintage, antique and collectible items includes thrift stores, consignment shops, live estate auctions, online auctions, etc.  Some online auctions can offer shipping but pick up is preferable in many cases since it costs less money in gas to go get a trunk full of stuff compared to their shipping rates. 


I haven't had any problems getting my purchases from online auctions. And I love the great deals on stuff - even with a buyers premium and shipping. It's just something to factor into your cost and bid accordingly.

 

But the online auctions are still very strong. Here too, if you offer the right stuff. I mainly start everything at 9.99. Works much better in a lot of cases than relisting a one bid one kill multiple times.

 

I have stuff packed away that I upgraded or was included with one thing that I wanted for myself, and I could probably list 25 auctions a week until I die and still won't get thru it all.

 

PA just announced 3 more counties today under a stay at home order. I think I might start listing more than the few I'm able to get to every now and then, although mine isn't one of them.

 

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@chapeau-noir wrote:
I do think there will be a shift of "non-essential" commodities onto eBay from Amazon sellers who can't sell them right now through the site (with their 50,000 free listings and all).

The only sales affected by Amazon''s shipping delay are items fulfilled by Amazon. 

 

There are still plenty of sellers on Amazon who have their own inventory and ship their own items.

 

IMHO many sales will simply go to another Amazon seller, not necessarily to an eBay seller. 

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95% of the stuff I buy on there I don't need immediately, so I always pick the shipping option where I get a 1.00 or 3.00 digital music/video credit.

 

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@picknparley wrote:

Yes, I understand how Amazon is set up. My comment was geared more towards the ability to implement IT changes on their massive site in a short time. Ebay takes weeks, and sometimes years, to make the proper fixes to this site. 


Mr. L  was speculating so I posted to his post.

 

IMHO, the problems with fixing anything is infrastructure.  Amazon was developed and 'grew' in a coherent, organized fashion.  eBay was not - Meg Whitman even said they didn't test or document at that time but "code on the fly".  I suspect their legacy code is a mess due to this, they haven't kept talent so whomever is left is having to work with a system that is constantly broken, and any fix breaks something else.  In my corp life I had a job working on a system like this - it was like working on something held together with duct tape and bailing wire.


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@luckythewinner wrote:

@chapeau-noir wrote:
I do think there will be a shift of "non-essential" commodities onto eBay from Amazon sellers who can't sell them right now through the site (with their 50,000 free listings and all).

The only sales affected by Amazon''s shipping delay are items fulfilled by Amazon. 

 

There are still plenty of sellers on Amazon who have their own inventory and ship their own items.

 

IMHO many sales will simply go to another Amazon seller, not necessarily to an eBay seller. 


With many Amazon sellers going to merchant-fulfilled instead of FBA at this time, expanding to eBay makes sense since they are currently in possession of the inventory rather than selling FBA. 50,000 free listings makes this attractive and I suspect is a hook for this, given that it's only sensible to expand selling venues in a low market.  Those who already use eBay for just another portal will continue to do so.


“The illegal we do immediately, the unconstitutional takes a little longer.” - Henry Kissinger

"Wherever law ends, tyranny begins" -John Locke
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