Simply-the-best-for-you Volunteer Community Mentor
@ducks2k wrote:@simply-the-best-for-you-- sorry "she/her" after 74 years, I really have a hard time adapting... "automated" is not something I thought about or tested. High PL rate would be disgustingly possible.
Just one other comment/question on this, why "disgustingly"? Most who post here a lot complaining about PL's are often using the bare minimum percentage, which was recently upped to 2%.
Ever since I figured out what works for me, I use much higher rates, mainly b/c I have to, since I sell in arguably the most saturated market on eBay. Let's say my average is 10%. It's no secret that the higher your rate, the more 'promotion' you get. Now exactly what that promotion consists of, has always been a secret (which is one of my biggest pet peeves about PL's), but maybe you stumbled onto 1 of them. Why would it be "disgusting" if what I get for my 10% rates, includes not having the banners? IDK if it does, but that wouldn't be a stretch, as the other 2 I found like mine, also sell in CSA. You could easily test it by using a high rate with some of your own listings. Taking a look at your items, it would only cost you pennies to test it out. If I'm paying 8-12%, I *should* get something more than the seller who pays 2%.
@nuclearomenthanks for the illustration. Before getting back to the conversation, I discovered that I had uploaded the logo correctly, but that I needed to "publish" the store to make the change take effect.
Also, your picture show my logo nicely, but when it is used in an item listing, it appears that the 300x300 square logo is cropped to a circle. In this case, it only cuts off a bit of the letter D, but it would not have been hard to describe in the logo creation directions.
@ducks2k wrote:@simply-the-best-for-you "disgustingly" was not against a higher fee, but that they MIGHT have said "pick XX% as your fee and we will suppress those two rows of advertisements". I could then weigh a predictable cost against my perception/measurement of "additional sales". It is not so much the rules themselves I object to, but the difficulty in deducing the rules.
Gotcha, the "disgusting" is not pointed towards my perceived benefit, rather at eBay's lack of transparency about it (if in fact that's why it's happening). I totally agree with that sentiment. It was why I initially was not a fan of PL's & it's still a pet peeve that I do not know what I'm getting for my money or how it differs based on what percentage I choose.
All I can tell you is that PL's have been around for several years now & eBay is no closer to publishing that info. I hated paying for something & not knowing what I was getting for my money. I still hate it. But, my sales almost tripled, so I had to conclude it was working for me. They are NOT going to divulge the inner workings, just like they won't divulge info on how their SE works. So, it's up to you to determine what you want to do with that. You can easily test out some of your theories & with the low cost of your items, it wouldn't cost you very much. But do NOT hold your breath waiting for eBay to disclose. They consider it proprietary & will not disclose.
@ducks2k wrote:@nuclearomenthanks for the illustration. Before getting back to the conversation, I discovered that I had uploaded the logo correctly, but that I needed to "publish" the store to make the change take effect.
Also, your picture show my logo nicely, but when it is used in an item listing, it appears that the 300x300 square logo is cropped to a circle. In this case, it only cuts off a bit of the letter D, but it would not have been hard to describe in the logo creation directions.
ah, yeah, OK, i forgot - so ebay changed the view items page recently where this logo would appear on your listing frame on right of description - now it shows under the description in a new kind of box section they did for seller stores... I do not know if the logo display size changed at all but on your store it isn't cut off that little part of the D. You can either 1. resize it (size it down some) or 2. make it circular (that is what I did - mine doesn't display perfect either like on community it's not perfectly center but i don't care). Do do circular you can't use .jpg format, you need to use .PNG format for ebay (transparent background) - my store banner is also PNG transparent background.
@zamo-zuan or @simply-the-best-for-you or whoever
decided to do a test with Automated campaign - never run automated but like said doing test, can someone tell me if the bottom "Adjust suggest ad rate" option I set correctly? I'm taking it as set % i'd be willing to pay below the suggested rate - this means ebay's suggested rate and I wrote it in correctly with - symbol correct?
Like said, just doing test, I was already promoting most listings at 4% so as the test just decided to do 5% as cap and see what happens.
@nuclearomen Looks good if you are wanting to never exceed 5% & want to go 3.2% below the SAR (but not to exceed 5%). That said, I have never used a minus in that field LOL. In my category, it's always what I'm going to go ABOVE the SAR.
@zamo-zuan I agree that it would be helpful to know what we have in common, though I suspect we are all paying high rates, since we all sell in clothing. I 'know' both of the other sellers (one personally, one on-line, but for well over a decade) & both are exemplary sellers (me too) who have been selling in the same category for over a decade at minimum. Keep in mind, that was a simple quickie 5 minute look only with sellers who happen to be on my Saved list. If I did a deep dive, I'm sure I could find many more.
As for your comment that you wouldn't use Automated b/c in your category it's 10% & that using automated would be suicidal in your case. I am failing to understand. As @nuclearomen screen shot clearly shows, you can set the rates at whatever you want. It doesn't have to be tied to SAR. You could do 4% across the board if you wanted.
ETA: Not trying to convince you to use Automated, just don't want erroneous info out there about what it is.
