My legitimate DVDs are removed because of report, not through VeRO. Someone reported them and eBay removed them incorrectly without careful investigation. And more importantly, they don't accept any appeal!
I've been selling these collectors editions for about one year and have no problem. They are legitimate DVDs, by searching "bluray steelbook" + brand name such as "blufans, hdzeta, filmarena, weet, novamedia", you can find a lot of them on eBay.
I spent hours writing a letter to eBay but got no response. I've been contacting eBay since the first removal. During the three week's communication, they keep repeating the same thing and can be summarized to these:
Your items are against policy because they are counterfeit.
We don't care your proof, we don't accept any appeal.
It's not a single mistake, 7 of my listings are removed, ALL of they are legitimate and ALL of them are still selling on eBay by many other sellers with great feedback.
Any advice?
The listings are removed so I can't post their link. But the key words for same listings are:
Guardians of the Galaxy Weet
Black Panther Weet
Jurassic World Blufans
Ghost in the Shell Blufans
Here is the letter I wrote to them about my removed listings "Guardians of the Galaxy Weet" and "Ghost in the Shell Blufans". I believe anyone who read this letter can find that these DVDs are ligitimate.
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Dear eBay team,
I received email recently saying that my listings [223485620274, 223498350259, 223564237146] are removed because of “copyright violation – unauthorized items”
I am sure that it’s competitors reporting with selfish intention and mislead you to make this incorrect decision. Please also inform me if this is a VeRO take down. If it is a VeRO take down, I would start the counter-notice procedure.
Your customer service representative Scarlett has passed my request to you, but your answer is “First sale doctrine doesn’t apply if the goods are illegitimate.” Therefore, I spent hours writing this article, to tell you all about these removed listings.
The listings you removed recently are authentic, authorized copies of Blu-ray DVDs. They are collector’s edition, they has slipcover with incredible texture, steelbook with beautiful art, and Blu-ray DVD disks inside. ALL of them are approved by the movie’s rights owner.
There are thousands of people from USA, UK, Germany, France, South Korea, Czech, Hong Kong, China buying and selling these sorts of collector’s edition Blu-ray DVD. These Blu-ray DVDs are made by by the copyright owner like Sony Pictures and Walt Disney, shipped to countries all over the world, officially imported by authorized publisher and distributors, sold to retailers like Best Buy, Target, Amazon, and other Premium Brand such as Blufans, HDZeta, Novamedia, Kimchidvd, Filmarena, WeET, etc. For normal editions of amaray case, the disks are packed into the cases by publisher or distributor. For collector’s editions like steelbook and digipak, the disks are packed by these retailers and brand. Then the customers, including me, bought these copies.
By searching the brand name + bluray steelbook, for example, “Bestbuy Bluray Steelbook”, “BLUFANS Bluray Steelbook”, you can find thousands of results. By searching with movie name + bluray steelbook, for example, “Jurassic World Bluray Steelbook”, you would find thousands of results as well. By searching with movie name + brand name + bluray steelbook, you can get a more specific result. This is the world of movie collectors.
Now, if you type the movie name + brand name + bluray steelbook for my removed listing, for example “Guardians of the Galaxy WeET”, you would find that many other sellers are selling the same Blu-ray DVD. Most of them are individual sellers, and can’t possibily get authorization from the copyright owner. I bet most of them don’t even know who the copyright owner is.
But, they are still selling them without any problem, because eBay policy has clearly stated in
https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/listing-policies/selling-policies/intellectual-property-vero-prog...
that “Under copyright laws, the owner of a particular, authorized copy of a copyrighted work is generally entitled to resell the particularcopy they own. For example, if you buy a DVD movie, you're allowed to resell that particular DVD.” The sellers of DVDs don’t need permission or authorization from the copyright owner, don’t need to know who the copyright owner is. They only need to know whether that copy in hand is authentic or not.
To find out whether a Blu-ray DVD is authentic, there are several clues:
First, what’s the price? Bootlegs or unauthorized Bluray DVDs always have much lower price. Normally an authentic Blu-ray DVD is $10-20, and 4K UHD Blu-ray DVD is $15-30. Price for collector’s editions such as Steelbook can vary. Bootlegs always have low price because of their poor quality.
Second, check the UPC/ISBN. Type the UPC/ISBN into the local search engine (google.com for USA, naver.com for South Korea, baidu.com for China, etc), or search in local government’s copyright database.
Third, check on blu-ray.com. Blu-ray.com is the best information website reagrding Blu-ray DVD releases. You can find all the editions of all movies that are officially published all over the world. Type the movie name in the search bar and choose the country name, you would find all editions of that movie officially published in that selected country.
I believe that after reading the eBay policy I quote above, and finding how many listings of Blu-ray DVDs are listed on eBay by individual sellers, you would agree that one can resell an authentic Blu-ray DVD without authorization from the copyright owner to do so. Now I need to prove that my removed listings are authentic.
- ALL of my removed listings have higher price than usual Blu-ray DVDs. No bootleg or unauthorized Blu-ray DVD could sell for that price.
- ALL of my removed listings have unique UPC/ISBN. The ISBN are assigned by The International ISBN Agency. You may also contact https://www.isbn-international.org to verify them.
For 223485620274 - Ghost In the Shell, it is published in China, it’s ISBN (9787799158587) can be found at WORLDCAT database, NATIONAL LIBRARY OF CHINA and WEN JIN searching engine, which belongs to the NATIONAL LIBRARY OF CHINA.
The link of result from WORLDCAT database: https://www.worldcat.org/title/gong-qiao-ji-dong-dui/oclc/1083095449
You may also search 攻壳机动队 at www.worldcat.org and refer to the 6th result.
The link of result from NATIONAL LIBRARY OF CHINA: http://mrw.so/4yfCav (shortened url)
You may also search 攻壳机动队 at http://opac.nlc.cn and refer to the 1st result, then click 音视频文献.
The link of result from WEN JIN searching engine: http://mrw.so/5pyZaV (shortened url)
You may also search 攻壳机动队 at http://find.nlc.cn and refer to the 5th result.
You may also search Ghost in the Shell at http://find.nlc.cn and refer to the 9th result.
Search it in Google would also generation some results.
For 223498350259 and 223564237146 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.2, they are published in South Korea with ISBN 8809619412844 and 8809619412868. Blu-ray DVD are still very popular in South Korea. These two editions can be found at ALL major online Blu-ray DVD retailers in South Korea. You can’t say that South Korea would allow illegitimate Blu-ray DVD be listed on ALL major online Blu-ray DVD retailers, right?
I bought it at YES24.com, the largest Blu-ray DVD retailer in South Korea. It’s like Blu-ray DVD listed on Amazon and sold by Amazon. No illegitimate Blu-ray DVD would appear on this site.
- ALL of my removed listings can be found at blu-ray.com. The links are:
For 223485620274 - Ghost In the Shell: https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Ghost-in-the-Shell-Blu-ray/187135/
You may also search Ghost in the Shell Blufans on https://blu-ray.com
For 223498350259 - Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.2 A1: https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Guardians-of-the-Galaxy-Vol-2-3D-Blu-ray/240092/
You may also search Guardians of the Galaxy Weet on https://blu-ray.com
For 223564237146 - Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.2 A2: https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Guardians-of-the-Galaxy-Vol-2-3D-Blu-ray/240091/
You may also search Guardians of the Galaxy Weet on https://blu-ray.com
- For collector’s editions of authorized Blu-ray DVDs, you may refer to these two forums: www.mediapsychos.com and www.hidefninja.com. These two forums are formed by Blu-ray DVD collectors. Whenever a new collector’s edition publishes, someone in these two forums will post it. You can easily search them with built-in searching engines. My removed listings can be found as well, the links are:
Hidefninja: http://mrw.so/5awDqh (shortened url) or search “guardians of the galaxy weet”
Mediapsychos: http://mrw.so/4O2Crs (shortened url) and http://mrw.so/5awDDF (shortened url)
- I am a trustworthy seller with great feedback. And there are many other sellers with great feedback and long selling history, selling the same Blu-ray DVDs as I do.
For 223485620274 - Ghost In the Shell, you may search “Ghost in the Shell Blufans” on eBay.
For 223498350259 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.2 A1
and 223564237146 - Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.2 A2,
you may search “Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.2 Weet” or “Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.2 Steelbook Slip” on eBay.
The two key points of my writing are:
First, everyone can sell authentic Blu-ray DVDs without authorization of the copyright owner to do so. eBay policy has clearly stated that.
Second, my removed listings are authentic, legitimate Blu-ray DVDs. Therefore, they are allowed to sell on eBay.
I believe my writing has sufficiently prove these two key points. If these can’t prove that my removed lisitngs are authentic and legitimate, please tell me know I can prove that.
Please reinstate my listings, as they are incorrectly removed.
Best regards,
legolassssc
mam98031 • Volunteer Community Member • Buyer/Seller since 1999
