GTC- Cancel and relist or let it run?

[redline_auto_llc]

What are you guys doing about listings that are about to end? On the one hand the boost from a new listing is in theory helpful, but on the other the listings no longer get to bypass the garbage search algorithm the way 30 day listings did and if you have a serious watcher (unheard of, I know) you're losing that potential buyer. 

What's your approach? I've been ending and "sell similar"ing, but I don't thing it's worth it the way it used to be.

[mam98031]

From your sold items, it doesn't look like your sales is suffering much since the GTC change.  June is typically a bit slow as people get out and enjoy the sunshine, school ends, lots of graduations, vacas, etc.  Give it some time.  You may find it works well for you.

We can't all be at the bottom of search returns.  Since all listings are either auction or GTC.  As much as some of us may not like it, it does seem that GTC is the way things will be for the future.  it's always been like that on Amazon and Etsy just announced they too are going to GTC.

Good luck to us all.

[redline_auto_llc]

Sales are now down 60% from May and 38% from last June... 5 figures. Definitely hurts. Today was a little better, but by better I mean it would have been an average day even a month ago. Coming off two days of no sales, it's a drop in an empty bucket. 

[mam98031]

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@redline_auto_llc wrote:

Sales are now down 60% from May and 38% from last June... 5 figures. Definitely hurts. Today was a little better, but by better I mean it would have been an average day even a month ago. Coming off two days of no sales, it's a drop in an empty bucket. 

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Do you sell with more than this account?  

[redline_auto_llc]

Nope. Sold a pair of headlights yesterday which is a nice boost, but here's a graph of the last 3 months. Notice the slump that never stopped that kicked in in June. 

[slippinjimmy]

I think the slump happened for a lot of sellers in June, personally my traffic was way down but I had a couple of much bigger than usual orders so my sales are actually WAY up. I also noticed that while both my Impressions and Views are way down my conversion rate is higher than usual. I have some theories partially based on the fact that I've had a slump in June almost every year

I originally planned to end and relist the GTC, but instead I went with leaving them up. I've seen a few things, on the items I have multiples sales are up considerably, perhaps only because when I was running 30 day listing they would end and it would be a few day or a week before I got around to relisting. Now I'm seeing sales a few days after the auto-renew date that night have not happened previously (you can't sell what you don't have listed).

Then I have a large amount of Items I only list during a promo, these I still end before they renew.

Some people are doing the end/relist thing to get the "new listing bump", I've never experienced much of a bump for that nor the "ending soon effect".

I would not let GTC renew forever with no sale, I would let them run for 3 or 4 months and then give them a break for a month or two. When I do list them again it's always as a new listing not as an eBay style relist where the item can be connected to it's previous history.

[mam98031]

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@redline_auto_llc wrote:

Nope. Sold a pair of headlights yesterday which is a nice boost, but here's a graph of the last 3 months. Notice the slump that never stopped that kicked in in June. 

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Well hopefully July will get back to normal for you.  Many sellers are battling several months in a row being down.  It is never a good feeling when we have a slow month.  But part of selling on the internet.  It is the prolonged periods that can be so problematic to deal with.

[div_style]

GTC listings will show as ending soon when near 30 days, and show newly listed when they auto relist.  So the advantage is the same as for the old 30 day listings.  If sales are slumping it's for some other reason(s).

[femmefan1946]

FWIW -

The buyer does not know if a listing is GTC.

tyler@ebay has told us (on dotCA) that there is no ending or starting boost on GTC listings, which actually surprised him.

The hope and promise was that long tail GTC listings would be found on Google.

Watchers watch. Buyers buy.

Compare sales not with last month but with last year to allow for annual rythyms.

You can end your GTC listings at any time.

Sell Similar shows as a New Listing.

I've used GTC for years because I expect my items to be long tail and I am lazy. I close the ones that eBay reminds me have been listed for 16 months w/o selling, and also those that have had 100 views w/o selling.

But they stay on my Unsold List for up to 90 days after which I relist (S/S) or donate.

[ittybitnot]

 and show newly listed when they auto relist

I don't think that is correct. 

[stanley2erols]

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@femmefan1946 wrote:

FWIW -

The buyer does not know if a listing is GTC.

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Non GTC listings no longer exist, so buyers would know that all listings are GTC.

[myjunqueyourtreasure]

@femmefan1946 

Have they given a date for GTC to kick in for Canada yet?

[readabouthorses]

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@ittybitnot wrote:

 and show newly listed when they auto relist

I don't think that is correct. 

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They don't show newly listed when they auto relist. At least the one I tested when it first started on us in March didn't. Each month when it relisted it just slipped further down the search when I searched by Newly Listed. I never did a search for Best Match to see where it might come up in the list.

[nobody*s_perfect]

That's right: When search results are sorted by "Time: Newly listed," the GTC listings are sorted according to their original listing date, not by their most recent rollover date.  Now that all fixed price listings are GTC, this means that the   "newly listed" results will have a preponderance of  auction-format listings, which will be mixed in with whatever GTC listings have been started most recently.

[readabouthorses]

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@nobody*s_perfect wrote:

That's right: When search results are sorted by "Time: Newly listed," the GTC listings are sorted according to their original listing date, not by their most recent rollover date.  Now that all fixed price listings are GTC, this means that the   "newly listed" results will have a preponderance of  auction-format listings, which will be mixed in with whatever GTC listings have been started most recently.

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I wonder where the relisted GTC listings fall when you search by Best Match? If Ebay deems them a "best match" I would guess they would be sort of at the top no matter when their original listing date was? Most everyone I know that buys on Ebay does not search by Best Match.