FEAR I'm being scammed as a first time seller

[shara7901]

Hi! I'm trying to sell a high ticket ring (wedding ring) for the first time. I listed it last night, marked it up 30% for the BIN price. This morning, I receive an email saying the item has sold for the BIN price of $9,100.00. The buyer has good reviews but it seems that most of the items he has purchased could be cheap items. Anyway, the buyer is asking for an invoice and says he will transfer the money via PayPal as soon as he gets the invoice. I know I need to request signature confirmation and delivery confirmation. Any advice?!

[robja_6549]

They don't need an invoice they can pay directly from eBay.

also do not give them your PayPal email address make them pay directly from eBay.

[sam9876]

Yes, you are being scammed.

[carlmarxx]

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@shara7901 wrote:

Hi! I'm trying to sell a high ticket ring (wedding ring) for the first time. I listed it last night, marked it up 30% for the BIN price. This morning, I receive an email saying the item has sold for the BIN price of $9,100.00. The buyer has good reviews but it seems that most of the items he has purchased could be cheap items. Anyway, the buyer is asking for an invoice and says he will transfer the money via PayPal as soon as he gets the invoice. I know I need to request signature confirmation and delivery confirmation. Any advice?!

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I agree  you  are being scamed  .   Newbie sellers under 300  or 0 feedback should never  sell  high   priced high risk  items ,because they you are scam buyer targets .   You should  waite until you get over  300+ feedback  to sell high valued items.    I would never  consider selling a $10 K   item  online  do to risks involed 

[retrose1]

OP, thank your gods that you got that type of scammer.

The scam they are operating is one that asks you for a paypal invoice - which they don't need to pay you - so they can get your email and send you a fake but official looking email that says YOU'VE GOT CASH, now ship quick and we'll deposit it when you enter tracking.  The buyers never pay.

This means that you still have your item if you don't fall for their scam.  Do not respond to them and file an unpid case against them and get your fees back.

OP, I am an experienced seller and would NEVER - I can't stress that NEVER enough, list a $9,000 piece of jewelry on ebay today.  There is no seller protection nor any protection for scams after you have shipped the item.  Once you have shipped it, the buyer can claim anything and send back an empty box and ebay will force you to refund and if you don't they will take the money from you.

Look around here for scams and see.  And read my signature line to see the best advice that can be given to new sellers.  Start small and work up - that way, you will not lose your $9,000 item, but might lose a $50 one.

[castlemagicmemories]

Buyer doesn't need an invoice~he can pay through Ebay.  

Generally after a request for an invoice, you get a paid notice from Paypal, but it is not real.  

Advice?  DO NOT send the invoice.

I believe you can open an Unpaid Item case after 48 hrs, then close it 96 hrs later, to get your fees back and give this "buyer" a strike.  Wait for others to weigh in on this, though.  @retrose1~please share what you think on opening a UPI here.  Thank you!

You may get a email from Ebay telling you that the bid was removed before you open the UPI.

[carlmarxx]

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@castlemagicmemories wrote:

Buyer doesn't need an invoice~he can pay through Ebay.  

Generally after a request for an invoice, you get a paid notice from Paypal, but it is not real.  

Advice?  DO NOT send the invoice.

I believe you can open an Unpaid Item case after 48 hrs, then close it 96 hrs later, to get your fees back and give this "buyer" a strike.  Wait for others to weigh in on this, though.  @retrose1~please share what you think on opening a UPI here.  Thank you!

You may get a email from Ebay telling you that the bid was removed before you open the UPI.

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I sure Hope the OP is reading all the post's here on her thread  .    I do hope she will  repost. 

[thatsallfolks]

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@shara7901 wrote:

Hi! I'm trying to sell a high ticket ring (wedding ring) for the first time. I listed it last night, marked it up 30% for the BIN price. This morning, I receive an email saying the item has sold for the BIN price of $9,100.00. The buyer has good reviews but it seems that most of the items he has purchased could be cheap items. Anyway, the buyer is asking for an invoice and says he will transfer the money via PayPal as soon as he gets the invoice. I know I need to request signature confirmation and delivery confirmation. Any advice?!

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As others said, you're being scammed. If you sent an invoice, you'd get a fake email from "PayPal" telling you that you've been paid, but the money won't show up in your account until you provide a tracking number.

If you relist (and I'd never sell a $9,000 item here), use Fixed Price format, not auction, and use the Immediate Payment Required option.

[carlmarxx]

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@retrose1 wrote:

OP, thank your gods that you got that type of scammer.

The scam they are operating is one that asks you for a paypal invoice - which they don't need to pay you - so they can get your email and send you a fake but official looking email that says YOU'VE GOT CASH, now ship quick and we'll deposit it when you enter tracking.  The buyers never pay.

This means that you still have your item if you don't fall for their scam.  Do not respond to them and file an unpid case against them and get your fees back.

OP, I am an experienced seller and would NEVER - I can't stress that NEVER enough, list a $9,000 piece of jewelry on ebay today.  There is no seller protection nor any protection for scams after you have shipped the item.  Once you have shipped it, the buyer can claim anything and send back an empty box and ebay will force you to refund and if you don't they will take the money from you.

Look around here for scams and see.  And read my signature line to see the best advice that can be given to new sellers.  Start small and work up - that way, you will not lose your $9,000 item, but might lose a $50 one.

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Retrosel  I will say it  Ebay should have a buyer Vetting system in place  for  buying  high priced items like jewelry and other high risk category's  that deal in high amount of money . 

[tellmemama]

Um...yet another brand new seller with a $9,100 item?  How on earth is this allowed to happen, eBay??  What happened to selling limits?  With absolutely no offense intended toward the OP, this should never be allowed.  In the current selling climate chock full of scammers, how can this possibly end well?  Fortunately the OP caught this may be a scam but what if the buyer pays, claims it isn't as described, and returns a gumball ring?

One more newbie seller left completely unprotected by eBay.  Disgusting.

[the*dog*ate*my*tablecloth]

I’m getting an error when I try to click on the listing? Maybe EBay caught the scam?

[duggmills]

Look up the buyers address on Google maps to see if it's an apartment building where packages get lost very quickly, a Halal meat market in the Bronx or something other than a single family residence.

Go to the property tax department for that address and see if the names are the same - owner and buyer.  It could be a rental unit in which case the buyer has $9K to spend on a ring but can't buy a house?  Contact the property owner to inquire about a renter's credit history. Don't ask for detail. That may not be legal.

Look at the address on Zillow to see if your buyer is planning a move soon.

Ask the buyer for their Social Security number and  permission to pull a credit report and background check.  If there is any resistance to this, don't ship.

Your are in essence, not just giving the buyer a $9 line of credit and giving the ring to them. Ask them if they're tried that at their local jewelry store of car dealer.

[tellmemama]

I saw it under the OP's sold listings...the only one.  Beautiful ring by the way.

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[orangehound]

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@tellmemama wrote:

Um...yet another brand new seller with a $9,100 item?  How on earth is this allowed to happen, eBay??

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It happens because eBay makes $750 on the sale.  They have no risk in the sale, and no incentive to warn the seller or limit the seller ... I think eBay is the only publically traded company in America that makes money off crime.

[tellmemama]

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@duggmills wrote:

Look up the buyers address on Google maps to see if it's an apartment building where packages get lost very quickly, a Halal meat market in the Bronx or something other than a single family residence.

Go to the property tax department for that address and see if the names are the same - owner and buyer.  It could be a rental unit in which case the buyer has $9K to spend on a ring but can't buy a house?  Contact the property owner to inquire about a renter's credit history. Don't ask for detail. That may not be legal.

Look at the address on Zillow to see if your buyer is planning a move soon.

Ask the buyer for their Social Security number and  permission to pull a credit report and background check.  If there is any resistance to this, don't ship.

Your are in essence, not just giving the buyer a $9 line of credit and giving the ring to them. Ask them if they're tried that at their local jewelry store of car dealer.

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Most of what you suggest isn't exactly legal.  If some random stranger called and asked about my rental history or tried to get my SSN, I'd be on the phone with the police in a New York second.  Plus, renting doesn't say they don't have the means to buy an expensive item.  There are plenty of people who rent out of convenience, or wanting low property maintenance, or just lack the desire to own a house.  

The OP should open and close the UID ASAP and sell the ring locally.