06-04-2019 07:04 PM - edited 06-04-2019 07:07 PM
If you run across a Seller with a logo such as this you may want to look at their feedback negative ones and search for Amazon. Most ebay buyers are buying items from this seller and the seller does not provide a tracking number or if they do it starts out like TBA from Amazon. There address is a UPS Drop Box and only God knows where they real are from. Just beware of sellers like this that drop ship when they don't nor have ever stocked such an item.
06-04-2019 07:09 PM
Amazon offers a fulfillment service. eBay sellers may use that, and indeed it is their product that they own.
Others simply buy it from Amazon after the fact.
How do you know which type you are dealing with?
06-04-2019 07:25 PM
Because:
Look at their feedback negative ones and search for Amazon. Most ebay buyers are buying items from this seller and the seller does not provide a tracking number or if they do it starts out like TBA from Amazon. There address is a UPS Drop Box and only God knows where they real are from.
And often times your order will include a gift notification.
It is against eBay policy and these sellers need to go away. If the buyer had wanted to purchase via Amazon, they would have gone there in the first place.
06-04-2019 07:33 PM
And often times your order will include a gift notification.
That would be the clue.
Items that arrive from Amazon FBA will come in Amazon packages, however, giving the impression that the item was actually purchased on Amazon and drop shipped when it isn't really the case. Just sayin'
06-04-2019 07:39 PM
Amazon has a service called FBA: Fulfillment by Amazon. Where they store and fulfill someones own stock. This is allowed by ebay. What they don't allow is what is called arbitrage droppshipping where a seller will sell items they do not own and misuse their prime shipping accounts. The problem is unless you're ebay, you can't really know for sure if this is being done. Yes a gift receipt is a clue. But just shipping in an amazon box doesn't mean anything.
06-04-2019 07:41 PM
Simple solution.....just be a regular "smart" shopper. That means shop around and check prices, this type of seller only exists because people don't check pricing. It's not like Amazon is an obscure place you wouldn't think of.
06-04-2019 08:00 PM
@parkersparrow wrote:Amazon has a service called FBA: Fulfillment by Amazon. Where they store and fulfill someones own stock. This is allowed by ebay. What they don't allow is what is called arbitrage droppshipping where a seller will sell items they do not own and misuse their prime shipping accounts. The problem is unless you're ebay, you can't really know for sure if this is being done. Yes a gift receipt is a clue. But just shipping in an amazon box doesn't mean anything.
We had a case of arbitrage droppshipping - but the opposite direction. We had an item that was sold a few times. Every time the seller placed a note saying it was a gift and not to include a packing slip. We noticed that many of the orders was from the same ebay buyer. We googled the buyer username and found his Amazon seller account.
So this Amazon seller would sell items on Amazon. When the order comes in, he goes to ebay, purchases the item from us, tells us that it is a "gift" and we ship to his customer.
eBay doesn't allow arbitrage dropshipping. If an e-bay does want to do dropshipping, it is possible if that seller shows he has an agreement with the dropshipper. Buying from Amazon or any online seller is not allowed. A deal with a distributor or a fulfillment center (Like Amazon FBA), is ok.
06-04-2019 11:33 PM
@jeannicho22 wrote:Because:
Look at their feedback negative ones and search for Amazon. Most ebay buyers are buying items from this seller and the seller does not provide a tracking number or if they do it starts out like TBA from Amazon. There address is a UPS Drop Box and only God knows where they real are from.
And often times your order will include a gift notification.
It is against eBay policy and these sellers need to go away. If the buyer had wanted to purchase via Amazon, they would have gone there in the first place.
Not if they are shipping from their own stock from Amazon FBA. That is allowed.
However having a UPS drop box as their location on their listings IS a listing violation and should be reported to Ebay.
06-05-2019 12:51 AM
06-05-2019 05:31 AM
Had a problem with paint over this. Bought this special enamel paint from a seller on eBay. It came dropped shipped from Amazon. Problem was it was shipped illegally. Started out with UPS and some where got transfered to USPS. Not marked properly and got crushed spilling paint all over every ones mail!. I got called to the post office over this! The seller replaced the paint and the post office did a investigation. I don't know what the out come was.
If I can figure out that the item is coming from Amazon I will not buy!
06-05-2019 06:32 AM
eBay doesn't allow arbitrage dropshipping.
Actually, they do. The punishment as outlined is merely "lowered search visibility", not loss of selling privileges. I don't think eBay is quite ready to 'give up the money' generated by the practice quite yet.
06-05-2019 06:48 AM
@toyshnip wrote:
@parkersparrow wrote:Amazon has a service called FBA: Fulfillment by Amazon. Where they store and fulfill someones own stock. This is allowed by ebay. What they don't allow is what is called arbitrage droppshipping where a seller will sell items they do not own and misuse their prime shipping accounts. The problem is unless you're ebay, you can't really know for sure if this is being done. Yes a gift receipt is a clue. But just shipping in an amazon box doesn't mean anything.
We had a case of arbitrage droppshipping - but the opposite direction. We had an item that was sold a few times. Every time the seller placed a note saying it was a gift and not to include a packing slip. We noticed that many of the orders was from the same ebay buyer. We googled the buyer username and found his Amazon seller account.
So this Amazon seller would sell items on Amazon. When the order comes in, he goes to ebay, purchases the item from us, tells us that it is a "gift" and we ship to his customer.
eBay doesn't allow arbitrage dropshipping. If an e-bay does want to do dropshipping, it is possible if that seller shows he has an agreement with the dropshipper. Buying from Amazon or any online seller is not allowed. A deal with a distributor or a fulfillment center (Like Amazon FBA), is ok.
We had the same problem, at the time I didn't care however the item was handcrafted and as a machine part it didn't take long before certain back yard mechanics started to experience problems mostly related due to inexperience... However the real problem began when these certain back yard mechanics contacted the seller who didn't have a clue as to what they were selling and couldn't answer even simple questions related to the item other than to state "please return for refund" which (and it's still a bit funny at this stage) then resulted in the item ending up in that reseller's hands... Since obviously the buyer couldn't return it to me...
What happens if you don't own what you sell and you don't sell what you own...
And this is where the problem begins, if questions aren't properly answered this particular item results in a large return ratio... And this seller who obviously ended up owning quite a few in some kind of order then tried to get me to take the returns by using a mildly convoluted system that is basically a reverse of how they sell it in the first place... It's hard to imagine a dropshipper doing this but it can be done, to have a buyer return an item to the original seller and the refund goes through the dropshipper back to the buyer, this tactic was particularly infuriating to me since I had no control over what this idiot was doing and once I caught on (several returns into it) I blocked that ID and then the problem started all over with another ID...
Long story short I wrote them a cease and desist letter but it wasn't for some time before the abuse eventually stopped.
06-05-2019 10:06 AM
@ittybitnot wrote:eBay doesn't allow arbitrage dropshipping.
Actually, they do. The punishment as outlined is merely "lowered search visibility", not loss of selling privileges. I don't think eBay is quite ready to 'give up the money' generated by the practice quite yet.
That is partially true. Repeated violations can come with sanctions by Ebay. But you are right, they start with lowering a seller in the searches.
06-05-2019 10:23 AM
No matter what relationship the seller has with Amazon, Do you think it is good for eBay to have the items sold here show up in an Amazon package? How would you as a seller feel if there was an Amazon banner on your listing?
06-05-2019 10:37 AM - edited 06-05-2019 10:38 AM
Yeah . . . I bought an item from a seller that ended up being dropshipped from Amazon. (In retrospect I should have guessed they were a dropshipper due to their very poorly cropped stock photo.) I got the item and immediately was annoyed with myself for not thinking to check Amazon for the item first. And it's not really great in the long-term, for eBay or its sellers, to have customers thinking something like that.
It was an item that I needed ASAP, too, and it certainly would have been faster for me to order from Amazon personally, as the seller took two days to submit the order.
The cherry on top was that the seller provided me with a dud tracking number. Like, come on dude.