07-23-2021 04:29 PM
EVERYTIME I GET ON EBAY THERE IS ALWAYS SOMETHING ELSE WRONG!!! THEY KEEP SWITCHING AND CHANGING THING THAT DON'T NEED TO BE CHANGED. CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHY THEY THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO MESS WITH SOMETHING WHEN IT IS NOT BROKE ????😣
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07-23-2021 10:31 PM
I do believe there is a lot of justification to keep jobs and programmers being in love with their own code, but there are other factors.
1) eBay acquires apps that used to be 3rd party paid extensions and absorbs them into the seller hub. I imagine its all a bit of an ecosphere and adding one thing means incorporating it into others. Thats going to require tweaking.
2) The nature of the internet is that it will always change, and change rapidly. Its adapt or die... keep up with the Joneses... The site changes with the landscape. Personally, I like to use my desktop for everything, but the smart phones are taking over, so the site has to change to allow easier access via smart phone. The smart phone is how buyers are primarily buying these days and an increasing amount of sellers are selling purely by a smart phone (but still a minority that may one day become a majority).
I don't like change either, but if you're a seller and this is your livelihood, then you have to accept it and get ahead of it. Beyond a few random features that they test roll out, everything is told months in advance in the seller releases (always located in the seller hub).
Easiest way to answer your final question is they don't want to be in a situation where something is broke and they have to fix it, but are trying to stay ahead of the bigger picture.
07-23-2021 04:34 PM
my thinking is they get fresh new staff in with such wonderful ( not always) new ideas and run with them.
Ebay is a very frustrating venue, I for one am just about to throw in the towel.
Took a 2 month break, just now wanted to try again only to find my unsold listings ( for 2 months to the day ) are toast.
07-23-2021 04:42 PM
What exactly is the source of the frustration? Seller Hub layout? Glitches?
How best to help?
07-23-2021 04:44 PM
If you want to vent, that's fine.
But if you need specific advice or help, you will have to give specific details.
07-23-2021 09:40 PM
Maybe people trying to justify their positions?
07-23-2021 09:50 PM
because people are employed to do a job and if everything stayed the same then I guess there would be no need to employ them so things get changed.
07-23-2021 09:58 PM
Good question.
07-23-2021 10:15 PM
@tatertot2u57 wrote:Ebay is a very frustrating venue, I for one am just about to throw in the towel.
Took a 2 month break, just now wanted to try again only to find my unsold listings ( for 2 months to the day ) are toast.
eBay only keeps your records available to you for 60 days. After that, they are moved off the visible site and become just more data in eBay's "Big Data" dreams. Big Data is great - but you have to be willing to use it impartially. Otherwise it's like creating a survey with limited answers designed to return the results you want to see. Like most of eBay's surveys...
If you want your data to stick around longer, look into desktop automation for online sellers. Since the data resides on your computer, you get to decide how long to keep it around. For example, I have well over 6 years of data currently in my SixBit database, and I have previous major release databases that go back almost all the way to 1999, when I first started using what is now SixBit.
There are a lot of options out there. I looked for something that presented my data to me in a format that made sense to me. If you can't understand what you are looking at, how can you use it effectively? I also wanted flexibility - I didn't want to control everything, but I wanted the ability to create templates that I designed, that I liked. I wanted to be able to organize my data in a way that was useful for me and not be locked into a format that I couldn't work with. I wanted to be able to export my data in a layout of my choosing, and be able to import new data from a layout from somewhere else. I wanted to be able to retain my data as long as I choose, within reason.
Make a list of absolutely everything you want a desktop app to do - everything. Now break that list down into "show stoppers", "annoyances", and "that would be nice". Show stoppers (gotta haves) mean that if you don't have this or the ability to do this, your business cannot effectively function and is pretty much at a standstill. For example, if you sell on eBay, you simply must have an application that can interface with eBay. Over-simplified, but you get the idea.
Annoyances (like to have) are just that - things what you find annoying today and would rather your automation do those things for you. If they aren't included, that's ok, but annoying.
That Would Be Nice (day dreams and flights of fancy) are those things that would really simplify your life, but probably wouldn't be wanted/needed by anyone else and are therefor likely to be found in any application package.
Now take your lists and score the different applications you find by their ad copy. If you have questions, contact them and ask -- if they don't respond, what does that say about their customer service overall?
And don't forget price. Some software is one flat rate for the month, regardless of your volume. Other software will have a monthly fee connected to the number of live listings, the number of sales, the total dollar amount of sales -- the price will vary and generally will increase as you grow.
Multi-venue is good, but generally not immediately necessary. Good in that you may want to expand into other venues as your business grows and you get more comfortable running it. But don't pay extra for something you might not use for a while to a very long while. Money not spent is money still in your pocket!
When I started looking around, I must have tried a dozen different "solutions" (back in '99, everyone was sure they had the next great thing) - none really pushed the right buttons for me, and some just plain didn't work. Don't get discouraged -- you're going to find a lot of "not what I want" before you find any "this seems to actually be working". And summer is a good time to do this for most sellers -- sales are slower, so there's a bit of free time to actually do the work of finding/learning automation.
-Bob.
07-23-2021 10:24 PM
Ouch, my ears....
07-23-2021 10:29 PM
@nuclearomen wrote:because people are employed to do a job and if everything stayed the same then I guess there would be no need to employ them so things get changed.
eBay is trying, as only eBay can, to re-invent itself, to become something that will offer more growth, more activity, more interest from shoppers. They are trying to convert the dependable VW Bug they started racing with into a top-notch McLaren racer... at the track.... during the race... using parts swiped from other vehicles.
The 'disruption' they so counted on to stimulate growth has also stimulated issues, glitches, and headaches. Yes, some things do eventually start working as promoted, but at what cost to the members? What was meant to be a kick in the butt has missed slightly and landed squarely between the legs. No time to stop tho -- each new update introduces a host of new issues that require new updates that introduce more issues.....ad nauseam ("Ad nauseam is a Latin term for argument or other discussion that has continued to the point of nausea.")
But fear not -- eBay is not alone! Problems of this type plague all large/mega-large software-based sites. Computers are just as fallible as the humans who create their code. Computers are amazingly stupid, being restricted to simple yes/no on/off 1/0 thought. They are also amazingly fast - so if you tell them to muck up something by mistake, they will do so at lightning speed -- usually much faster than you can hit the abort button (if you remembered to code one into the system).
But... this is eBay.
-Bob.
07-23-2021 10:31 PM
I do believe there is a lot of justification to keep jobs and programmers being in love with their own code, but there are other factors.
1) eBay acquires apps that used to be 3rd party paid extensions and absorbs them into the seller hub. I imagine its all a bit of an ecosphere and adding one thing means incorporating it into others. Thats going to require tweaking.
2) The nature of the internet is that it will always change, and change rapidly. Its adapt or die... keep up with the Joneses... The site changes with the landscape. Personally, I like to use my desktop for everything, but the smart phones are taking over, so the site has to change to allow easier access via smart phone. The smart phone is how buyers are primarily buying these days and an increasing amount of sellers are selling purely by a smart phone (but still a minority that may one day become a majority).
I don't like change either, but if you're a seller and this is your livelihood, then you have to accept it and get ahead of it. Beyond a few random features that they test roll out, everything is told months in advance in the seller releases (always located in the seller hub).
Easiest way to answer your final question is they don't want to be in a situation where something is broke and they have to fix it, but are trying to stay ahead of the bigger picture.
07-24-2021 12:31 AM - edited 07-24-2021 12:31 AM
Without change there can be no progress.
Without change, we would all still be driving a Ford Pinto instead of a Prius or Tesla.
07-24-2021 01:16 AM
Simple - You are Nobody , a childs mentality is controlling the program !
07-24-2021 01:30 AM
You have it in reverse .. going backwards is not progress .. I as a seller since 1999 now spend twice as long to get things done for the last few months , the streamlined easy to use ' classic ' page was discontinued . Seller hub has everything scattered not on one page as before .. that is progress ? Not ! Managed payments is more time consuming as well .. Ignorant children making the decisions .. Pathetic !
07-24-2021 04:38 AM
wax build up?