eBay

forgottenape · ‎09-18-2024

so whats ebays plan with this? either they get out of the eu completely or they go bankrupt trying to comply

fbusoni · ‎09-18-2024

@forgottenape wrote:
so whats ebays plan with this? either they get out of the eu completely or they go bankrupt trying to comply

Given that sellers here can barely get a straight answer about the delays in responding to simple questions posed to eBay community reps here, I'd say who the heck knows?

eBay seller since 1999. This is a posting ID.

forgottenape · ‎09-18-2024

id agree with this but i wanted to bring it up so everyone knows that armagedon may indeed be on the horizon for all online sellers on all major sites. eveyone should take a look and ebay should be coming up with a plan

1786davycrockett · ‎09-18-2024

@forgottenape

"id agree with this but i wanted to bring it up so everyone knows that armagedon may indeed be on the horizon for all online sellers on all major sites. eveyone should take a look and ebay should be coming up with a plan"

Unless your business model is heavily dependent upon sales to Europe, "armadedon" {sic} is highly unlikely for non-European eBay sellers when the full CSDDD requirements become implemented.

dbfolks166mt · ‎09-18-2024

It's difficult to assess how the Corporate Sustainability Due Diligence, which is the CSDD I assume you are talking about, will impact eBay or any other ecommerce site especially those that are a pass through vehicle and not directly responsible for products. They are however a service provider so not sure if they are/will be on the hook to handle the CSDD for every product that flows through them which would be virtually impossible or if they are just responsible for their own CSDD compliance as a service provider.

The same situation would apply to EU B&M stores that carry a variety of different company products. There are not a lot of details regarding which companies this will apply to but the EU commission has estimated about 6,000 companies within the EU with more than 1,000 employees and more than net 450 million EUR. For non-EU estimates are around 900 companies with more than net 450 million EUR. The last one seems a bit off given China and/or the US would seem to be able to cover than number on their own.

forgottenape · ‎09-28-2024

read the law it doesnt matter if you do buisness in the eu its if ebay does buisness in the eu. they are then required to make sure all people doing buisness with them ie me and you are in compliance or they are fined. ignore this at your own risk

forgottenape · ‎09-28-2024

read the law they are required to have everyone that they do buisness with in the eu or out are in compliance regardless of size that is every seller casual and full time. and the law also stipulates that individual member states can inact there own versions, the overall eu version is just the baseline. so ignore it im sure everything will be fine

chariot_badges · ‎09-28-2024

@dbfolks166mt wrote:
It's difficult to assess how the Corporate Sustainability Due Diligence, which is the CSDD I assume you are talking about, will impact eBay or any other ecommerce site especially those that are a pass through vehicle and not directly responsible for products. They are however a service provider so not sure if they are/will be on the hook to handle the CSDD for every product that flows through them which would be virtually impossible or if they are just responsible for their own CSDD compliance as a service provider.

Or ... will the responsibility be shifted to each individual seller here.

Do we each need to do all this reporting? and compliance work?

And, if we don't will we be fined up to 5% of our worldwide sales?
And would those fines be levied by the EU?

And, are they going to come to my hometown to enforce those penalties?

1786davycrockett · ‎09-28-2024

@forgottenape

"read the law it doesnt matter if you do buisness in the eu its if ebay does buisness in the eu. they are then required to make sure all people doing buisness with them ie me and you are in compliance or they are fined. ignore this at your own risk"

If one does not "do business in the eu," then the CSDDD regulations do not apply -- to believe otherwise is illogical.

And many eBay sellers may simply choose to opt out of selling to EU members, in which case those sellers need not worry about being compliant with the CSDDD regulations.

Problem solved -- and still no Armageddon.

fbusoni · ‎09-28-2024

@1786davycrockett wrote:
@forgottenape

"read the law it doesnt matter if you do buisness in the eu its if ebay does buisness in the eu. they are then required to make sure all people doing buisness with them ie me and you are in compliance or they are fined. ignore this at your own risk"

If one does not "do business in the eu," then the CSDDD regulations do not apply -- to believe otherwise is illogical.

And many eBay sellers may simply choose to opt out of selling to EU members, in which case those sellers need not worry about being compliant with the CSDDD regulations.

Problem solved -- and still no Armageddon.

@1786davycrockett

I just read a little bit about this pie-in-the-sky CSDDD nonsense.

It appears that it will be up to each member state to supervise implementation within the borders of their own country.

And consequences for non-compliance with CSDDD "directives" will be up to local authorities.

In other words, CSDDD is a big nothing burger, like most everything else that the EU promulgates.

eBay seller since 1999. This is a posting ID.

chariot_badges · ‎09-29-2024

If the EU wants to come at me for taxes, they can **bleep** well come knock on my door to collect.
I'll be glad to serve them a cold American beer and tell them to go to hell.

I've done it for our own American IRS version.

;>)