06-28-2023 02:06 PM - last edited on 06-28-2023 06:09 PM by kh-gary
I have been Buying and Selling On eBay Since 1996! Not a Power Seller or Power Buyer Just Sell A few Things That I don't Use anymore and Clean up my House! Never Would I sell Thrift Shop Items, Untested Junk or Yard Sale Items that Cost $5.00 and Sell On eBay for $39.00 and Buying, I look at Prices and Sometimes they are Less on eBay and a Few Bucks More on Amazon so I like to Give my business to the Little eBay Sellers even thou you never get your item the next day or even Same day Delivery like Amazon!
As Of Today I will Never Buy Anything on eBay Again! Half the Time It's Delivered From Amazon anyway by Drop Shipper eBay Sellers. But After I Figured Out that I was Being Charged Seller Fees on my Items Plus My Shipping Expenses and the Tax the Buyer Paid As my Income and Auction Value at a rate of almost 14% and sometimes the Shipping is More Than the Item itself! So If the Shipping is an Item Value and My Income I guess you Just Keep the Money and this Criminal total is also being Reported to the IRS as Your Income not to mention the Seller Fees 3 times the Value of the Item that sold! Even Items That never get paid for are left in your 90day seller totals as items you sold without a dime being paid is Your Auction Value! So I sold 5 Items That hadn't been Paid but Show SOLD at a Whopping 1,029.00 on my Seller Dashboard But My Payout 463.57 to my Bank, The Non-Pays and Canceled Items Stay Indefinitely On my Seller Dashboard as Sold Items and reported to the IRS as My Income of 1,029.00 and I print my Label Via eBay So Once I hit Purchase Label It's An Expense Not a Value and the Tax the Buyer Paid If they Payed anything Is a Value to the Government Nobody else but That's a Value to me as well? So Maybe If You keep the Shipping Money and never Ship the Items that's A value to me as a seller? So Enough with the eBay Games and AMAZON no Games, EZ returns NOT the Work it Out with Between your self for a few weak and The Your eBay Parents will Step in and Decide What Kid they will Grant the Return Shipping Expenses! Amazon Does It All, Ship, Pack, Sell, Free Instant Returns! and No Games. Half the Crap on eBay Comes From Thrift Shops that cost $5.00 Untested Junk and Yard Sales or Amazon?
Selling A few more Items and Good Bye eBay. Millions have already Started Figuring This Out. I have Never Got An eMail From Amazon (WE ARE CHANGING OR POLICY AGAIN) eBay Doesn't Do Anything But Count Money and Let the Algorithms Collect Money! Sellers Do It All And Made eBay.
The Only Way You can Make Money on eBay Is to Sell Free Goods and Wait till The IRS Hits you with the Tax on the Dashboard totals! The Payout is What I made not the Seller dashboard. And I had to buy the Items That I sell And I paid Tax For Them and Now the Buyers Tax is My Profit? and Shipping Expense Is My Profit? CRIMINAL It wasn't OK that People Listed Items for Buy It Now 1.00 and Put 120.00 shipping so eBay Thought It would Be ok For them To do it to Millions of Seller would be OK? Because eBay Only Charged fees on Item Value and they Lost Money So What they did to Retaliate is This to all sellers? NOT OK & eBay is Self-destructing. Sad Sad Day @ eBay
Now eBay Automotive (PARTS THAT FIT) Does eBay Sell Parts? NO! sellers Sell Parts! THE Seller says it Won't fit But eBay Guarantees it will or eBay Will Give you 100% of the Sellers Money Back! MORE GAMES that cost them Nothing!
Disney Land Monkey Business.
06-29-2023 10:07 AM
@mn467462 wrote:It's criminal what ebay is doing. but we the sellers are doing nothing about it. We could all band together, and file a class action lawsuit against ebay criminal activities. But nobody seems to be taking the initiative. Because the people who could actually get that motion going, are the ones making the most money, and they're contempt because they're doing well financially.
How about you be the one to take initiative and let us all know how that turns out. Oh, and also, be sure to read the user agreement you agreed to when signing up. Specifically the part about lawsuits. Make sure the lawyer you hire reads that as well.
06-29-2023 10:09 AM
I've been away from the boards for quite a while, and this is the first thread I click on.
I'm not a day drinker, but I might start.
06-29-2023 10:11 AM
@aprilmoviebuf2000 wrote:I've been away from the boards for quite a while, and this is the first thread I click on.
I'm not a day drinker, but I might start.
You should see the other threads the OP has started. Some are even worse.
06-29-2023 10:23 AM - edited 06-29-2023 10:25 AM
"On eBay, when Tax is charged, it's charged on the TOTAL.
Because eBay does not know what the actual shipping cost is-vs-the item cost.
They only know what you 'claim' it is."
Incorrect. eBay does, in true fact, know what the "actual shipping cost" is versus the item cost.
Here's an example: The Order Summary of the most recent sale by my selling ID.
This summary can only be seen by my selling ID when that selling ID has logged on to eBay.
See? eBay breaks out specific amounts and labels them as Item Subtotal (cost), Shipping, and Sales Tax.
Ergo, eBay does know "what the actual shipping cost is-vs-the item cost."
My listings all allow eBay to calculate postage/shipping prices, based on zip codes and package sizes/weights.
I live in San Diego. The delivery zip code was in Massachusetts, so, like, in close to the exact opposite diagonal corner of the nation from me, the highest "zone" for postage rates.
The First Class Package postage was $4.13. My listing included a handling charge of $0.50, to cover the cost of the envelope I mailed the Item in. So, the shipping charge shown to the buyer was $4.63. And my buyer did pay $4.63 to have a $3.99 item sent to him/her. (Gender-neutral first name.)
Massachusetts does not impose a state sales tax on the cost of postage/shipping. The buyer paid 25 cents in sales tax on the $3.99 cost of the item, meaning the sales tax percentage was around 6.25%. Good sales tax rate, btw.
eBay does know whether to charge sales tax based on two things: (1) the category of the item (e.g., some states do not impose sales taxes on clothing, so items listed in clothing categories might not be charged sales taxes) and (2) the delivery zip code. That zip code also tells eBay whether sales tax should be charged on the amount the buyer pays for delivery/shipping.
BUT! It occurs to me you might not have meant to say "Tax" in that first sentence: "On eBay, when Tax is charged, it's charged on the TOTAL." Maybe you meant to talk about Final Value Fees (FVFs), or what is shown in my screen shot above as "transaction fees." FVFs are different from taxes. FVFs are charged to the seller, by eBay, on the total amount paid by the buyer.
But you did say/type "tax." So, my response was about state sales "tax."
06-29-2023 02:44 PM
It's criminal what ebay is doing. but we the sellers are doing nothing about it. We could all band together, and file a class action lawsuit against ebay criminal activities. But nobody seems to be taking the initiative. Because the people who could actually get that motion going, are the ones making the most money, and they're contempt because they're doing well financially.
EBay is a business and as a business their only mission is to maximize their value to their shareholders. If there is criminal activity, such as breach of contract terms or SEC violations, you need to identify it and possibly research precedence. Then you need to find a lawyer or law firm that is willing to handle the legal action.
You can sue eBay as a few have done but it can and will be a long drawn out process probably 2-3 years. You can google eBay lawsuits and see some of the examples of what eBay has been sued for. In a lot of cases it is not a class action law suit but an individual going after eBay.
06-29-2023 03:09 PM
@mn467462 wrote:It's criminal what ebay is doing. but we the sellers are doing nothing about it. We could all band together, and file a class action lawsuit against ebay criminal activities. But nobody seems to be taking the initiative. Because the people who could actually get that motion going, are the ones making the most money, and they're contempt because they're doing well financially.
Hi, @mn467462 , it’s important to read and study eBay’s User Agreement, with particular attention to Section 18 entitled Legal Disputes.
https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/member-behaviour-policies/user-agreement?id=4259
06-29-2023 03:17 PM - edited 06-29-2023 03:18 PM
Incorrect. eBay does, in true fact, know what the "actual shipping cost" is versus the item cost.
Here's an example: The Order Summary of the most recent sale by my selling ID.
Maybe following is one of mine. I did ship this but there is no shipping label shown since I purchase a lot of labels through Pirate Ship simply because they have Priority Mail Cubic which eBay does not offer. It's a mute point anyway since the FVF's are assessed prior to you ever purchasing a shipping label.
06-29-2023 03:41 PM
WoW! that bad?
06-29-2023 03:45 PM
@mn467462 wrote:It's criminal what ebay is doing. but we the sellers are doing nothing about it. We could all band together, and file a class action lawsuit against ebay criminal activities.
@mn467462 Since you are accusing Ebay of criminal activity surly you can come back and state the law Ebay is breaking.
06-29-2023 03:48 PM
Oh, thank you. I quit reading after the first few sentences. I was getting a headache and straining my eyes trying to find the reason for the post. I gave up.
06-29-2023 03:54 PM
Amen!
06-29-2023 06:10 PM
Please -- join the rest of us. You will have to work pretty hard to catch up.