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Buyer lied about item being defective, can I get shipping back?

A buyer purchased my item, an exhaust fan for radon, claims her husband installed it and it did not work.  So I told her to send the item back and I would find her. I got the item back today, wired it to electrical outlet and it worked fine. I did go ahead and refund her. The amount I refunded could not be altered, the price she paid+shipping. I also paid for return shipping as she opened a refund case for defective item. 
Since the item has been tested and not defective and probably buyers remorse, I feel she should pay for shipping both ways. 
How can I get my shipping back? 
oh, also the item was altered, the electrical box had a waterproof gland going into already. They drilled another hole on the plastic box. 
I can’t get another on the phone to speak to them. eBay customer service has gone down hill and fees are increasing. 😣

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Buyer lied about item being defective, can I get shipping back?

No, you can't get your shipping back.

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Buyer lied about item being defective, can I get shipping back?

Is that how it normally works? Or because I’ve already refunded the buyer?  

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Buyer lied about item being defective, can I get shipping back?

Yes, this is how it works.  The shipping was used, so you won't be refunded for it.  Sorry, but it is the cost of doing business.  Sellers will never win an item not as described case.  It has happened to all of us.  Thankfully it doesn't happen often.  At least you can resell it.

evry1nositswindy  •  seller since 2013
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Buyer lied about item being defective, can I get shipping back?

All you can do is block buyer from future purchases.

Nothing else you can do to get shipping or anything.

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Buyer lied about item being defective, can I get shipping back?

Be glad you got your item back and not an empty box and still have to refund.

Have a great day.
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Buyer lied about item being defective, can I get shipping back?

Got it, thanks. 

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Plus report buyer for using fraudulent return request

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Buyer lied about item being defective, can I get shipping back?

@gadgetman17 

I don't think you understand what a No Return policy actually means on Ebay.

 

The return policies options are as follows.

 

  1. No Returns
  2. 30 day returns w/ buyer pays shipping
  3. 60 day returns w/ buyer pays shipping
  4. 30 day returns w/ seller pays shipping, AKA Free Returns
  5. 60 day returns w/ seller pays shipping. AKA Free Returns
  6. 14 Day returns in certain categories

 

With option number 1, No Returns the seller can completely deny taking a return for a Buyer's Remorse Return Request.  Or if they want to, they can accept the return and have the buyer pay the return shipping.  If the seller so chooses, they can withhold the original shipping if it was separately stated on the listing [not free shipping] when it is time to refund the buyer.

 

On options 2 & 3 the buyer is responsible for the return shipping on a Buyer's Remorse Return.  Plus, if the seller so chooses, they can withhold the original shipping if it was separately stated on the listing [not free shipping] when it is time to refund the buyer. As of October 1st 2019, sellers that are TRS have some additional protections as well as they can issue partial refunds if they use options 4 or 5 as their return policy.

 

On options 4 & 5 above, they are also known as Free Returns.  If a seller that has either of those policies, they will pay the return shipping even on a buyer's remorse return.  A seller can withhold the original shipping value from the refund if the shipping was separately stated in the listing [not free shipping].  Also, Seller’s offering options 4 or 5 have the ability to do partial refunds in certain cases if the item arrives back damaged, missing something or in a condition less than what it was sent to the buyer in, see the policy for more details, the link is below.  In the cases where a deduction in the refund is taken due to damage or other authorized reasons for a partial refund, Ebay will protect the seller from negative or neutral feedback.

 

ALL OPTIONS [1, 2, 3, 4 and 5] are required to process SNAD claims without exception.  Even if they are improperly filed and should have been a Buyer’s Remorse claim.

 

All return policies by sellers must meet or exceed what is stated in the Money Back Guarantee Policy!

 

14 day return policies are allowed in certain categories: Jewelry & Watches, Collectibles & Art, Cameras & Photo and Medical, Mobility & Disability Equipment.

 

For those with Free Return and/or TRS members with 30 day return policies, there are some added protection benefits, one of which is the ability to do a discounted refund under certain conditions.


mam98031  •  Volunteer Community Member  •  Buyer/Seller since 1999
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Buyer lied about item being defective, can I get shipping back?

@mam98031 Very nice explanation.  I would also add that having a no returns policy makes buyers think they have no other recourse than to file a chargeback.  A return is more cost effect.

evry1nositswindy  •  seller since 2013
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Buyer lied about item being defective, can I get shipping back?

YES! Report the buyer AND file an appeal! 

According to eBay's policy, you can request your shipping be refunded.

Good luck!

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@a_happyhoarder wrote:

YES! Report the buyer AND file an appeal! 

According to eBay's policy, you can request your shipping be refunded.

Good luck!


What policy are you referring to?


mam98031  •  Volunteer Community Member  •  Buyer/Seller since 1999
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