08-22-2020 06:57 PM
Good Evening:
I had an item listed that did not sell once and was automatically re-listed. Part of the reason I believe it may not sell is eBay way overestimating the delivery timeframe pooching me over for no good reason when I have ALWAYS shipped within 24 hours wirh the correct method or even upgraded First-Class to Priority-Mail numerous times in the past.
Why not just estimate your handling time + shipping time for the delivery estimate THEN just not let buyers **bleep** about a late item unless it is about three days late? OR Even better do NOT post a delivery estimate at all? Just state handling time, and shipment method. Why does eBay try to act like they are Amazon and buyers get Prime at sellers expense anyway? In practice eBay puts its hands into the buyers’ wallets by forcing the sellers to charge more to ship to make up for FVF on shipping.
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ON TOPIC. I had an item listed for all of $25 buy-it-now / make-offer even though some others of the same sold in the low to mid $30’s (different seller). Long story short, I got an offer of $15 and while I wasn’t initially going to accept less than $20 for offers, I accepted it because the person is in the same state and the buyer has all positive buyer feedback as well as positive left for others ... AND Priority Mail Region rate might be more economical making up some of the difference... Either way I want it over with for that item, so I accepted.
NOW THE ITEM HASN'T BEEN PAID. I have Automatic Unpaid Item Dispute turned on, but I am concerned from what I read, once a buyer receives an unpaid-dispute, it **bleep** off the buyer. Is it true all the buyer then has to do is pay to be back on good terms with eBay, AND then the buyer can still leave feedback AFTER violating eBay’s auction terms by not paying timely? Am I only protected if the buyer then doesn’t ever pay?
It would seem to me once a buyer doesn’t pay in 48 hours, he or she should totally forfeit the right to leave any negative feedback for that transaction, ever! I would say the seller should additionally have the right to not sell the item to that buyer if not paid in 48 hours, the seller should be able to just choose to strike the buyer, cancel the transaction, and re-list all at once with no penalty. Personally, I should NOT be forced to do business with a buyer who is **bleep** off eBay is making them pay to avoid an Unpaid Item Dispute strike OR if I don’t open the dispute and complain I eat the eBay FVF.
It would seem to me eBay simply shouldn’t charge sellers the FVF in the first place until the buyer pays!
Am I wrong about any of this? I changed the automatic Unpaid Item Dispute Assistant to 4 days, so eBay does not **bleep** them off on my behalf, and I contacted the buyer politely reminding them they got a great deal (to confirm searching sold listings) and that I would ship immediately within 24 hours of payment, so they get it fast... Hoping they get the message I am really asking to be paid.
I totally understand mistakes happen, but it is the buyer who needs to request a cancel right if they do not want the item? Otherwise it is a defect if I do it?
Anything I can do to protect myself?
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08-22-2020 08:51 PM
Note: The Unpaid Item Dispute blocks the buyer leaving feedback for the transaction.
Though sometimes things go bad, basing an action on fear of what might happen with a buyer can be counter-productive. There is no need to wait any longer than 48 hours to open the Unpaid Item Dispute, unless that is not what you want to do.
No one wants to antagonize a buyer and risk getting a poor review, but sometimes a seller does everything right and still gets one. Most buyers know that a lone negative is meaningless when the seller owns many positives to counter it with. Therefore, the time to worry about negative feedback is when it happens, not before. Consider also that feedback no longer has the same power it once did. Seller metrics are not affected by feedback scores any more.
"Anything I can do to protect myself?" Once the sale is made, there is essentially no way to lower one's liability. So the time to assess one's risk tolerance is prior to listing the item and then considering all outcomes for the sale.
But at the beginning point, there are a few things a seller can do to minimize their risk on eBay. The first is to know well the policies the platform is governed by. The scammers know them well, and sellers need to know as much as the scammers do, to arm themselves against fraud. One of the most important policies to know is the Money Back Guarantee.
Setting one’s Buyer Requirements is also very important as it can block deadbeat buyers who don’t pay. Setting them to the strictest levels can prevent a known non-payer from buying your items for a year. Buyer Requirements can also block communication from those on your Block List, prevent buyers in locations you don’t ship to from buying your items, and other helpful features as well.
The Unpaid Item Dispute is important because savvy sellers have their Buyer Requirements set up to block those who get two strikes in a year. All sellers benefit from a fellow seller opening these disputes against non-payers. Doing so also blocks the buyer from leaving feedback on that transaction, and credits back the Final Vlaue fees.
Ebay provides Shipping Exclusions so that sellers may choose what areas they are comfortable shipping to. These are effective blocks in preventing international buyers from accessing a seller's items. The same is done with one's Block List where individual users are noted. Anyone a seller does not wish to do business with for any reason can be placed on the Block List.
Another way to minimize risk is to purchase additional shipping insurance on pricey items. This makes the seller whole after a buyer receives an item damaged in transit and the seller must refund. So the seller makes the buyer whole, and the insurance makes the seller whole in turn. Buyers have the Money Back Guarantee. Sellers have shipping insurance. Some sellers self insure by adding a few cents into the sale price of each item to be set aside. Then when there is a refund or shipping damage, those funds are tapped.
@netwizz760 wrote: " ...but it is the buyer who needs to request a cancel right if they do not want the item? Otherwise it is a defect if I do it?
That is correct. A seller can get a defect for canceling a transaction without buyer request. So that is generally a last resort.
08-22-2020 07:05 PM
You set the handling time, not eBay. EBay just bases the estimated delivery on the handling time you set and what mailing method you use. Take a look at your handling time on your items to see what it is.
Just let the unpaid item process run its course. If the buyer never pays, you get your fee refunded. Don't worry about it making someone angry. People can get angry for any reason or no reason, you can't control someone giving you a neg. Just provide the best customer service you can and hope for the best. It's ok to send a reminder asking the person if they still want the item or do they want to cancel. If they want to cancel, you cancel by buyer request. If they just don't pay, just let the unpaid item dispute go through.
If they don't pay, you have the option to put that name on your blocked bidder list, so they don't do this to you again.
08-22-2020 07:08 PM
Thanks. It is set to one day handling.
Automatic Unpaid Dispute is set to 4 days. Is that what you use?
08-22-2020 07:09 PM
Yes, that's what I use too.
08-22-2020 08:51 PM
Note: The Unpaid Item Dispute blocks the buyer leaving feedback for the transaction.
Though sometimes things go bad, basing an action on fear of what might happen with a buyer can be counter-productive. There is no need to wait any longer than 48 hours to open the Unpaid Item Dispute, unless that is not what you want to do.
No one wants to antagonize a buyer and risk getting a poor review, but sometimes a seller does everything right and still gets one. Most buyers know that a lone negative is meaningless when the seller owns many positives to counter it with. Therefore, the time to worry about negative feedback is when it happens, not before. Consider also that feedback no longer has the same power it once did. Seller metrics are not affected by feedback scores any more.
"Anything I can do to protect myself?" Once the sale is made, there is essentially no way to lower one's liability. So the time to assess one's risk tolerance is prior to listing the item and then considering all outcomes for the sale.
But at the beginning point, there are a few things a seller can do to minimize their risk on eBay. The first is to know well the policies the platform is governed by. The scammers know them well, and sellers need to know as much as the scammers do, to arm themselves against fraud. One of the most important policies to know is the Money Back Guarantee.
Setting one’s Buyer Requirements is also very important as it can block deadbeat buyers who don’t pay. Setting them to the strictest levels can prevent a known non-payer from buying your items for a year. Buyer Requirements can also block communication from those on your Block List, prevent buyers in locations you don’t ship to from buying your items, and other helpful features as well.
The Unpaid Item Dispute is important because savvy sellers have their Buyer Requirements set up to block those who get two strikes in a year. All sellers benefit from a fellow seller opening these disputes against non-payers. Doing so also blocks the buyer from leaving feedback on that transaction, and credits back the Final Vlaue fees.
Ebay provides Shipping Exclusions so that sellers may choose what areas they are comfortable shipping to. These are effective blocks in preventing international buyers from accessing a seller's items. The same is done with one's Block List where individual users are noted. Anyone a seller does not wish to do business with for any reason can be placed on the Block List.
Another way to minimize risk is to purchase additional shipping insurance on pricey items. This makes the seller whole after a buyer receives an item damaged in transit and the seller must refund. So the seller makes the buyer whole, and the insurance makes the seller whole in turn. Buyers have the Money Back Guarantee. Sellers have shipping insurance. Some sellers self insure by adding a few cents into the sale price of each item to be set aside. Then when there is a refund or shipping damage, those funds are tapped.
@netwizz760 wrote: " ...but it is the buyer who needs to request a cancel right if they do not want the item? Otherwise it is a defect if I do it?
That is correct. A seller can get a defect for canceling a transaction without buyer request. So that is generally a last resort.
08-23-2020 03:28 AM
What if Unpaid Item Dispute is open and buyer pays?
Then the buyer can leave feedback right?
08-23-2020 04:59 AM
yes if the transaction is completed, than the buyer can leave feedback.