Authentication for Handbags announcement .... oops, did he really say that?!?

[mr_lincoln]

Here is one sentence that I think is wrong ... think he meant Buyers and not Sellers ... ahhhh, "shoppers" don't  "sell" ... they buy ... oops!

"Consumers and industry influencers alike are praising how we’re establishing eBay as a place where shoppers can find and sell coveted items, and feel confident about every transaction."

I am sure someone will come along and edit that for him ... I wonder how safe and protective this system really is for Sellers and the dreaded INAD claim ...

[ed8108]

Also Interesting

Fails to identify industry influencers & buyers who are alleged to be praising ....

[bbravo65]

...too complicated...

[bbravo65]

...oh...please...do not pull handbags into this "authentication" mess as already sellers lost their merchandises and monies over authentication for sneakers...

...besides being robbed by scammers-buyers, sellers also dealing with the thieves from those authentications...

...and no helps from eBay...

[nuclearomen]

idk about any that, but I do know have heard some pretty gross negligence on ebays part with sellers having items sent their authentication center and either completely loosing sellers items or falsely identifying items as not authentic  when they were. 

[vintagecraze50]

It was a lot more messy when these designer handbags were being peddled as real when they were fake and buyers scamming sellers out of thousands of dollars when they claimed fake in an INAD. SO GLAD they did this and are now enjoying some real momentum in sales with this. People way more confident now selling and buying these items here.

[downunder-61]

I don't have items requiring this so just a question out of curiosity.

Can authentiction be done using a registered distributor by a seller or does it have to be done via the eBay process? It's just I have read some horror stories about sneakers that blow my mind and eBay seems powerless/unwilling to stop it.

I mean how can one authenticator say Yes genuine - then another say No Fake on the same item (as per a thread on these boards) and not be held accountable.

[mr_lincoln]

@downunder-61, @vintagecraze50 , @nuclearomen , @bbravo65 , @ed8108 

I read all of your replies, I think all this does is cut down on scams not eliminate them completely.  We're watching a situation right now, the first credit card purchase dispute on an account in Managed Payments.  It's not a big sale, about $ 44 in round numbers - item plus shipping.  The only thing we could do as part of eBay's canned process was upload the tracking which they already have on file.  The downside of course is if we lose we owe $ 20.  We "think" the Buyer simply forgot they purchased the items, they are books and not high value ones.  They "might" sell for twice what we sold them for but that would be the top end so again, we "think" the Buyer simply forgot about their purchase.

The whole Authentication thing could force criminals to use the charge back approach instead of the INAD claim or a return because they changed their minds and they return junk instead of the original item.  In the end, criminals (Sellers & Buyers) find ways around the system ... it's WHAT they do.

I guess what I think is inconvenient with the Authentication process (with eBay) is sending items back and forth.  That is risky in and of itself, not to mention time consuming.

[luckythewinner]

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@mr_lincoln wrote:

Here is one sentence that I think is wrong ... think he meant Buyers and not Sellers ... ahhhh, "shoppers" don't  "sell" ... they buy ... oops!

"Consumers and industry influencers alike are praising how we’re establishing eBay as a place where shoppers can find and sell coveted items, and feel confident about every transaction."

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I think the point of that statement was to remove the distinction between buyer and sellers, since many eBay users do both.

"Consumers and industry influencers alike are praising how we’re establishing eBay as a place where eBay users can find and sell coveted items, and feel confident about every transaction."

[valueaddedresource]

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@mr_lincoln wrote:

Here is one sentence that I think is wrong ... think he meant Buyers and not Sellers ... ahhhh, "shoppers" don't  "sell" ... they buy ... oops!

"Consumers and industry influencers alike are praising how we’re establishing eBay as a place where shoppers can find and sell coveted items, and feel confident about every transaction."

I am sure someone will come along and edit that for him ... I wonder how safe and protective this system really is for Sellers and the dreaded INAD claim ...

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@mr_lincoln I thought this bit was interesting too:

This is about us transforming the luxury experience on eBay by spotlighting enthusiast collectible categories; by adding luxury handbags to the $100+ sneakers and $2,000+ watches authentication ‘club,’ eBay now offers item verification in three of its highest-performing categories.

The move further solidifies our marketplace as a top destination for buying and selling high-passion, high-value and hard-to-find items. Already we’ve seen a significant increase in sales compared to last year, and on average a handbag is bought on eBay every 12 seconds.

Woah, that's a lot of handbags! Interesting use of "luxury handbags" in the first paragraph vs "a handbag" in the second though. 

Given the math of 1 bag every 12 seconds, I can't imagine that's just counting luxury handbags above $500 that would qualify for authentication, so I have to wonder why  they would be using that statistic in an announcement about the authentication program. 🤔

[my-cottage-books-and-antiques]

I'm quite sure ebay means just what it says there----a handbag (not necessarily a luxury handbag)----sells every 12 seconds. I think the point is: this is a very popular category on ebay, and that's one reason ebay selected it for this treatment. 

[48hrs-clothing]

Sellers of Authentic items should have no concerns if eBay and or their partners advise all sellers what information they require as evidence that items listed are Authentic. 

This gives sellers a list of evidence that will be accepted and I have no problem at all in providing eBay and or their Authentication team evidence of Authenticity that is available to me in advance of listing the item.

I accept that a business can do this and an individual who is selling their item ( Pre owned or new) may not have evidence available and eBay should make their policy clear allowed to list or not.

Once an item / listing has been authenticated then eBay must not allow buyers to open INAD or Does not seem authentic cases.

INAD cases should only be allowed when something clearly contradicts what is shown on listing.

Faults or damage hidden or not declared by sellers is wrong and quite rightly should result in INAD case but buyer must be required to provide this evidence before opening their INAD case.

[valueaddedresource]

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@my-cottage-books-and-antiques wrote:

I'm quite sure ebay means just what it says there----a handbag (not necessarily a luxury handbag)----sells every 12 seconds. I think the point is: this is a very popular category on ebay, and that's one reason ebay selected it for this treatment. 

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Thanks @my-cottage-books-and-antiques  I'm quite sure they mean just what it says too.  It just seemed odd to me the way it was worded.

While it may be true that statistic means it's a popular category overall, only a narrow segment of that category has been chosen for this treatment (certain luxury brands over $500).  Context matters - if a low dollar, no name brand purse sells every 12 seconds, that's not really relevant to the rest of that announcement, nor does it reflect anything one way or another about the success of or demand for eBay's authentication program, in my opinion.

[mr_lincoln]

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@valueaddedresource wrote:

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@mr_lincoln wrote:

Here is one sentence that I think is wrong ... think he meant Buyers and not Sellers ... ahhhh, "shoppers" don't  "sell" ... they buy ... oops!

"Consumers and industry influencers alike are praising how we’re establishing eBay as a place where shoppers can find and sell coveted items, and feel confident about every transaction."

I am sure someone will come along and edit that for him ... I wonder how safe and protective this system really is for Sellers and the dreaded INAD claim ...

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@mr_lincoln I thought this bit was interesting too:

This is about us transforming the luxury experience on eBay by spotlighting enthusiast collectible categories; by adding luxury handbags to the $100+ sneakers and $2,000+ watches authentication ‘club,’ eBay now offers item verification in three of its highest-performing categories.

The move further solidifies our marketplace as a top destination for buying and selling high-passion, high-value and hard-to-find items. Already we’ve seen a significant increase in sales compared to last year, and on average a handbag is bought on eBay every 12 seconds.

Woah, that's a lot of handbags! Interesting use of "luxury handbags" in the first paragraph vs "a handbag" in the second though. 

Given the math of 1 bag every 12 seconds, I can't imagine that's just counting luxury handbags above $500 that would qualify for authentication, so I have to wonder why  they would be using that statistic in an announcement about the authentication program. 🤔

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@valueaddedresource   They are masters of subterfuge and disinformation often doing things for nefarious reasons with them being the chief beneficiary ...  does that about sum it up?!?  I think you are right on with the statistics ... the handbags sold from here (different account) have all been NON "luxury" bags ...

[vintagecraze50]

There is big money to be made in these designer items and the people who drop 5 grand for a handbag just becuase it has so and so’s name on it is mind boggling to me.