Artificial Market creation

[sparkteam]

Hi, i'm wondering what your opions are on artificial markets.i.e items that don't sell on ebay but because some one else as listed a similar product, you list yours and some one sees yours and list theres and so on. but when you scroll through the listings there have been no actual sales

i.e

Jean Muller protestors.

I'm sure theres more, and if there are sales it's usaly to re-list at a higher price in a hope for a sale.

[coolections]

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@sparkteam wrote:

items that don't sell on ebay but because some one else as listed a similar product, you list yours and some one sees yours and list theres and so on. but when you scroll through the listings there have been no actual sales

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That is why I always checked history before listing anything. What you describe is something I would send to Salvation Army and the reason for such a high sell-through rate. Many do what you described but those are the ones that are convinced Ebay hides their listings and buyers really want to purchase them but cannot see them.

[luckythewinner]

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@sparkteam wrote:

Hi, i'm wondering what your opions are on artificial markets.i.e items that don't sell on ebay but because some one else as listed a similar product, you list yours and some one sees yours and list theres and so on. but when you scroll through the listings there have been no actual sales

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That is not "artificial market creation" because there is no market. 

That is "wishful thinking" from people with no business sense who are being enabled by a marketplace that has a low barrier to entry.

My opinion? None, really. That situation should not affect a seller with even rudimentary analytical skills. 

[arun7500]

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@sparkteam wrote:

Hi, i'm wondering what your opions are on artificial markets.i.e items that don't sell on ebay but because some one else as listed a similar product, you list yours and some one sees yours and list theres and so on. but when you scroll through the listings there have been no actual sales

i.e

Jean Muller protestors.

I'm sure theres more, and if there are sales it's usaly to re-list at a higher price in a hope for a sale.

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Nothing wrong at this end. We list on the .com site, but don't sell to the US/EU. Nothing but advertising, buyers like the price and they contact us, we direct them to the .com/au or .com/my. All within ebay rules. Now if you're talking about ghost sites where the actual listing is copied by Chinese sellers and your're redirected. Well Yes, that is against the rules, but then again rules don't apply when you're talking about the Chinese and ebay, only everyone else.

[thatsallfolks]

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@sparkteam wrote:

Hi, i'm wondering what your opions are on artificial markets.i.e items that don't sell on ebay but because some one else as listed a similar product, you list yours and some one sees yours and list theres and so on. but when you scroll through the listings there have been no actual sales

i.e

Jean Muller protestors.

I'm sure theres more, and if there are sales it's usaly to re-list at a higher price in a hope for a sale.

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A "market" has both buyers and sellers. What you're describing is not a market.

I'm sure people list things after looking at active and completed listings, without looking at SOLD listings. That's why there's so much overpriced stuff here that never sells.

[tellmemama]

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@sparkteam wrote:

Hi, i'm wondering what your opions are on artificial markets.i.e items that don't sell on ebay but because some one else as listed a similar product, you list yours and some one sees yours and list theres and so on. but when you scroll through the listings there have been no actual sales

i.e

Jean Muller protestors.

I'm sure theres more, and if there are sales it's usaly to re-list at a higher price in a hope for a sale.

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To me this isn't creating an artificial market.  It's sellers who list the same item which doesn't sell for any of them.  My interpretation is when a seller lists (or "sells") an item at an unrealistically high price causing others to buy on speculation.  Like a live auction or flea market for example where hoards of people wander the aisles with iPhone in hand while they shop.   "My phone shows it is selling/sold for XX dollars and here's one for only x dollars!  I'm rich!"  Except the whole premise is based on false data and the only one who might sell is the original seller. 

After he adjusts the price back to where it should have been in the first place.

[lookng2015]

Or removes the listing once his item sells at the auction or flea market = )

[mistwomandancing]

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sparkteam wrote:..........i'm wondering what your opions are on artificial markets.i.e items that don't sell on ebay but because someone else has listed a similar product, you list yours and some one sees yours and lists theirs and so on. but when you scroll through the listings there have been no actual sales

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I have no opinion of this occurance as an **artificial market** but I do have an opinion of sellers who participate in trying to sell here without doing any research into whether there is a **real market** for the merchandise they are listing.

We have members complaining here regularly about their poor sales and no sales, and sometimes at least part of that is more than likely because they list merchandise that has a very low chance of actually selling.  They most often haven't checked out the sales history of that item, they have no idea whether it is considered desirable anymore or whether its time is well past, etc.  (Lots and lots of Used Stuff listed on eBay that nobody wants.)

Ya' get 50 Free Listings each month at the very least.  Throwing up listings for merchandise that is rarely sought after isn't smart business practice.  Businesses thrive and remain strong on SALES.  The only way I can think it's a decent idea to list odds and ends that have almost nobody wanting them is IF you have a spare unused listing or two at the end of the month and nothing else to list with it.  But if your Snowball's-Chance-In-Heck items don't sell, at least don't come here and complain about it.  

(And, yes... there are those items that have to sit and sit and sit until " their buyer " finds them and makes the purchase, but... in this day and age in online commerce and eBay, even that is a poor business model and a very questionable business plan here.)

[muttlymob]

That's not creating a market.  It's creating clutter.