A Looming Change in Ivory Policy?

[chrysylys]

I'm seeing word that US Fish and Wildlife has decided to allow imports from Elephants killed between 2016 and 2018.  Will there be a policy change here?  How will this site determined eligibility of imported items?

[chipper01work]

eBay will not change their Ivory policy because of this. Mammoth ivory is even illegal here because they are unable to accurately make the distinction in listings between mammoth ivory and African elephant ivory so mammoth ivory is banned too. 

[smenkveld]

There will be no policy change with ivory items on ebay because antique ivory is legal to sell as long as it doesn’t leave the USA but ebay still bans it and sometimes ebay even bans the word ivory in listings. There are a few better venues than ebay for selling antique ivory I sell a lot of it from antique keyboards that I salvage to artists and jewelry makers on other venues

[myboardid]

As long as ivory is not considered Politically Correct, it will be banned.  Like WWII/Nazi items and confederate flags. 

[sharingtheland]

Check today's news.  The Donald is lifting an Obama ban on importing "legally hunted" elephant trophies from Zimbabwe and other places.  Even though African elephants are considered threatened animals on the Endangered Species Act.

One of my favorite (sarcasm, despair font) quotes of the day:

But Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke, who installed the Big Buck Hunter arcade game in the department’s employee cafeteria, is intent on promoting hunting.

“Some of my best memories are hunting and fishing with my dad and granddad, and then later teaching my own kids to hunt and fish,” Zinke said in September. “That’s something I want more families to experience.”

How do you fish for an elephant?

[luckythewinner]

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@chrysylys wrote:

I'm seeing word that US Fish and Wildlife has decided to allow imports from Elephants killed between 2016 and 2018.  Will there be a policy change here?  How will this site determined eligibility of imported items? 

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eBay sets its own rules, which are often far more restrictive than the laws of any city, state, or country.

These policies are generally established to make it easier for eBay to make a decision and avoid liability, not to make it more complicated for them to make a decision and increase liability. 

IMHO adjusting to this new would probably make it more complicated and increase liability. 

eBay is here to make money for eBay, not to make it easier to sell ivory. 

[ersatz_sobriquet]

The greed pilfering of near extinct species is almost complete. 😞 

Why does ebay call my sad face a "smiley sad" when you point your mouse over it? There's no "smiley" attached to this sad, it's just sad. 

[castlemagicmemories]

I saw this news today; what will we sink to next.

You are right, very sad.  A travesty of human values.

[themagicmountain]

US Fish and Wildlife is one of the most corrupt agencies

If this happens, it's the beginning of the end for elephants 

A small group is ruining creatures that are everyone's

[castlemagicmemories]

You know, it definitely seems like we are going backward, and not forward.

Back to the Dark Ages.  

[ted_200]

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@myboardid wrote:

As long as ivory is not considered Politically Correct, it will be banned.  Like WWII/Nazi items and confederate flags. 

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I think you're probably right, but you never know with eBay... once they figure out that a policy change would cause 1,000,000 listings for fake off-white plastic items made in China to appear here, they just might do it!

[gracieallen01]

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@smenkveld wrote:

There will be no policy change with ivory items on ebay because antique ivory is legal to sell as long as it doesn’t leave the USA but ebay still bans it and sometimes ebay even bans the word ivory in listings. There are a few better venues than ebay for selling antique ivory I sell a lot of it from antique keyboards that I salvage to artists and jewelry makers on other venues

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Not in California.

[mistwomandancing]

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themagicmountain wrote:

A small group is ruining creatures that are everyone's

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And this isn't anything new at all.  This is part of the story of our species and I doubt our species will change.  This started when humans learned to stand upright and hunt.  We hunted the great cave bears and the sabor tooth out of existence.  We drove the wooly mammoths to their end.  We've caused the demise of the passenger pigeons and the great dodo, the thylacine and lion of India are extinct or very close to it, and literally thousands of species of plants and animals.  This has been going on forever, from our beginning, and we don't learn how to stop it from continuing.

Humans are simply the most dangerous species to have ever developed.  We wipe much out of existence wherever we overgrow a piece of the planet and can no longer live with the others in a symbiotic relationship, where they provide for us, and we provide for them.  In the end, we are just too successful in breeding and spreading our numbers.  The others will be consumed for food or for money to support the lives of those who live there, and then after death, on up the chain.

I love to fish.  And somewhat to hunt.  It isn't always kept in very healthy balance these days though. 

[*madison]

The Donald is lifting an Obama ban 

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The Donald appears to be trying to undo everything Obama did.

[chipper01work]

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@themagicmountain wrote:

US Fish and Wildlife is one of the most corrupt agencies    

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You can say that about any and every government agency.