ceramic statue makers mark can not identify please help figure out which brand and maker this is

[briarcreeks]

ceramic statue makers mark can not identify please help figure out which brand and maker this is

I do not think it is antique it might be vintage... 

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[sasebo3]

Do an internet search for crossed  swords mark on porcelain. If those are swords know that Meissen  porcelain marks are highly counterfeited.

[silverstatetreasureboxes]

@briarcreeks. If you posted your ceramic piece on Art and Collectables forum and take more pictures, I'm sure one of the more expert posters could help you, Maxine is one of the best. Good luck to you!

[briarcreeks]

I am enclosing some more detailed photos of the 3 pieces that i have, their mark is eluding me i can not find out who it is... I do not believe it is a crude fake it looks carefully made the same on all 3 units 

[maxine*j]

Most people do not care to click on links to download unknown files, and in many cases their security settings won't even allow it.  Click on "Reply" to your own post or to this post and use the camera icon that you see on the toolbar to post pictures directly in the thread.

However, the mark in the picture I can see in the first post looks like just another of the zillion fake / imitation / copy / whatever-you-care-to-call them Meissen marks.

[patd3283]

Wasn't there a group of famous musical monkeys?  I forget the maker and marks but you might search for them.

[sonomabarn67]

I had a cold painted bronze version once.

https://www.google.com/search?q=cold+painted+bronze+monkey+band&client=firefox-b-1-d&tbm=isch&source...

[argon38]

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@patd3283 wrote:

Wasn't there a group of famous musical monkeys?  I forget the maker and marks but you might search for them.

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The original Monkey Orchestra (Affenkapelle) figures were produced at Meissen by Johann J. Kaendler and Peter Reinicke in the mid-18th century. Meissen were evidently still producing them 200 years later (here's an authentic  Meissen set from 1951):

https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/17106/lot/1355/ 

But of course, they were also widely imitated. The Meissen mark is a crossed-swords mark. As md1919 pointed out on the OP's other thread, the mark on these pieces is not a Meissen mark. So the OP's pieces weren't made by Meissen:

https://community.ebay.com/t5/Collectibles-Art/can-someone-please-identify-this-ceramic-figurine-mak... 

In fact, on close examination the OP's mark is not even a crossed-swords mark. It is a "V" with some squiggles underneath:

[maxine*j]

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@argon38 wrote:

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But of course, they were also widely imitated. The Meissen mark is a crossed-swords mark. As md1919 pointed out on the OP's other thread, the mark on these pieces is not a Meissen mark. So the OP's pieces weren't made by Meissen:

https://community.ebay.com/t5/Collectibles-Art/can-someone-please-identify-this-ceramic-figurine-mak... 

Ah!   Another thread posted with a different user-ID.   I didn't catch that.  Glad I didn't make an idiot of myself by reading and replying to it as well.

[argon38]

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@maxine*j wrote:

Ah!   Another thread posted with a different user-ID.   I didn't catch that.

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More monkey business.

[dtitr]

[dtitr]

i do have 2 accounts... but i rarely use the other one so i thought that instead of signing in and out and back into my favorite account i would post it again here ... not monkey business just trying to be more efficient --- still need help on this please do not ignore me

[dtitr]

they say that you are the expert please let me know your thoughts as .... i do have 2 accounts... but i rarely use the other one so i thought that instead of signing in and out and back into my favorite account i would post it again here ... not monkey business just trying to be more efficient --- still need help on this please do not ignore me

[argon38]

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@dtitr wrote:

not monkey business just trying to be more efficient --- still need help on this please do not ignore me

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Sorry, the "monkey business" comment was just a bad joke. There are several sets with these impressed numbers on WorthPoint. One seller positively attributes the mark to a mid-20th century German maker, which seems likely enough on the face of it - but I'm not convinced that their specific attribution is correct, and I don't want to mislead.

[maxine*j]

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@dtitr wrote:

they say that you are the expert please let me know your thoughts 

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Someone was being kind in  calling me an "expert" on any subject.  😃  The real experts on this, though, are md and janet  who answered you on your other thread. 

My opinion on these is the same as theirs, though:  They are not Meissen.  Neither the mark nor the quality look like Meissen, to my eye. 

I doubt you'll ever find who made them, and if you did it would be unlikely to add value.  I say, just enjoy them or sell them on their own merits.