05-30-2023 11:44 AM
And Earnest thank you in advance to anyone who could help me identify the artist and perhaps the printmakers Cartouche. This piece is parchment mounted on board and has an Italian feel to me, but what do I know?
05-30-2023 12:09 PM
The stamp reads "Firenze" which is Florence Italy, so your feeling was right! I assume that the artist's name is in the lower left corner (or it could be the location) and could be Calli but the bottom edge is cut off so hard to see. Where do you see Cartouche?
Rita
05-30-2023 03:36 PM
Buy cartouche, I was just referring to that round printers mark. Well, part of the mystery assault. Thank you so much for taking time out of your day to help me.
05-30-2023 04:46 PM
@pmrigsbysr2012 wrote:Buy cartouche, I was just referring to that round printers mark. Well, part of the mystery assault. Thank you so much for taking time out of your day to help me.
You're welcome. Here is another print with the same printer's mark. G. Firenze may be the name of the printer or the printer's initial G and the city Florence .
Rita
05-31-2023 06:03 PM
I found this mark (Crown-G-Firenze) on other prints / reproductions. They are all prints / reproductions from collections in the Uffizi Gallery in Florence. Is there a chance that the it is the gallery's mark? I don't have time for more research, myself, but you might care to look further into this.
Two other examples:
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/163909294955
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06-03-2023 10:42 PM
agree Firenze is Italian, Florence
06-04-2023 07:10 AM
FYI, this print appears to be done on paper, not parchment. Probably has a high rag content, most prints are on high-quality rag paper. The paper has to be wet when it is run through the printing press, and parchment doesn't have the same texture or characteristics when it is wet.
Parchment is a type of leather, usually calf-skin, sometimes another kind. I have made prints, and I have done calligraphy and illumination on both paper and parchment, so I'm familiar with both. I don't think that parchment would work very well in the process of printing.
06-04-2023 07:18 AM
This ended auction listing (item is not for sale) gives an explanation of what the printer's mark means. This is the seller's interpretation, but the explanation does make sense given the types of other prints that can be found with this printer's mark.
https://www.ebth.com/items/4187176-museum-lithograph-after-a-drawing-of-madonna-and-child
"... This print has a circular stamp in lower left that reads ‘G Firenze’ under crown, indicating the print is a souvenir print of a work that is displayed at a Florence gallery."
06-04-2023 08:37 AM
'I don't think parchment would work very well in the process of printing"
Agree, but it worked really well for hand painted illuminated manuscripts for many hundreds of years which is where the confusion lives on.