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New to Group with Questions on Gucci Buttons

Hi - I'm new to this group and so glad I found you. I have lots of old and interesting buttons but the button question I have pertains to some Gucci buttons that I found at a yard sale. I think these are sample buttons as they are all new and have never been used. There were about 8 different types of buttons. All the buttons have the Gucci double "G". Most are enamel and some are silver with the Gucci name on the back. Very unusual buttons. There are about 4 to 8 of each button. They are very unusual. I was just wondering if anyone had any information about these buttons. Any information will be appreciated. Thank you. Natalie
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Sorry no particular information but I would think this type of button would have eager buyers if listed in the correct category. I'd probably list them in designer fashions for folks who need to replace buttons. On the other hand, these are also considered "vanity buttons" by collectors and would have collector interest as well. Those post in the Collectibles: Vintage Sewing: Buttons category for the most viewers. If you are planning to list them, be sure to use Vanity Buttons somewhere in the listing title. Best of luck. -Carol C-
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Hi Carol - So glad I found this place. Thank you so much for the info. You sure do know your buttons. If you don't mind, I have another question to ask (actually 2 questions). In that same group of buttons that I found there was one bag that had written on it "VERY OLD BUTTONS". In the bag there were the largest buttons I have ever seen. They are plastic or maybe lucite (don't know how to tell the difference) and they measure 2-1/2" and they have a metal piece in the middle for sewing it on. Three of them are sort of clear dark carmel or tortoise color and 5 are just clear. Then there were 6 ornate buttons that feel like a light weight kind of plastic. The back has a diamond shape with the letter "D" in the middle and it says "Pat.D 144492". Do you have any idea if these are really old? Any info would greatly be appreciated. I'm really new to this button collecting and am trying to learn as much as I can. I'll be looking forward to hearing back from you. Thank you. Natalie
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If the buttons in the bag are really old I doubt there would be any Lucite. Lucite is acrylic which was developed just prior to WWII which would seem "really old" to most folks but by National Button Society standards, "antique" is any button made before 1918. All others are deemed "modern". This has to do with the severe swing in materials availability with the advent of plastic manufacturing and a change in how industry developed and how buttons were made after that year. A push is on to get another age category called "vintage" but we'll see what happens with that. Our society is a good one but changes can be slow to happen. Typically very, very large buttons were a type worn on cloth duster coats in open top roundabout autos. For some reason those coats had HUGE buttons, usually just one or two for easy on and off. The backmarked buttons you mention are some type of synthetic polymer (plastic) but NOT bakelite. Bakelite was not backmarked at anytime and generally was not molded but carved from tubular rods. Anytime you see molding indications (small marks on the side from injection molding, evidence of molding around sewing holes or shank areas), it's probably not bakelite. The only molded bakelite buttons I know of are some the collectors call "realistics". These are buttons with a shape of something real (animal, plant life, people, objects). In the case of these molded realistics, they are very flat with just a slight convex curve which is concave on the reverse side. The top design is sort of an outline type of incised look and when the button is turned over you can see the same incised looking lines but they are reversed. So instead of being raised as they are on the front, they are depressed. You didn't ask about bakelit but I thought I'd throw this in since there seems to be mass confusion out there about what bakelite plastic is and it's currently my pet peeve that just about every older looking plastic gets labeled bakelite. I'd really have to see a sample of your buttons to give you much more information. You can post to this group in the photo area. Once you submit your photo for posting, I just have to approve it. I check back here every few days but if I don't, just e-mail me thru eBay and remind me to get back to the group and do my job. LOL!! -Carol-
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Carol, you are the best. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. I will try to get some decent pictures of these buttons and will submit them for your approval. Thank you again. Hope you had a great Thanksgiving. Natalie
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Thank you for the information on Bakelite, Carol. I have seen so many buttons labeled Bakelite and was wondering about that. Glad to know about the lack of molding marks as one indicator. That is something I had not found in my research.
Bobbie
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