mam98031 • Volunteer Community Member • Buyer/Seller since 1999
@kozmo_kramer wrote:Basically this is my way of letting people know what they have done to the sellers, at least the small guys.
In regard to defects, 1) buyers do not care generally, they can even rip off the sellers and they get their money back. I have been scammed sooooo many times by buyers and nothing ever happens to them. 2) I am not staying on this platform, I have very little listed and when those products are gone, I am gone.
This new system is nothing but a scam, Ebay had plenty of time to make this work like PayPal, but, why would they if they can float billions of dollars yearly. Our money sits in your bank for days before we are able to use it to purchase new products to keep our businesses open.
I have been with ebay since 1998, but no more, tired of getting screwed by buyers and now again by Ebay.
So does that mean that when you go to shop somewhere you want someone stopping you at the door to explain any and all problems they may be having with their vendors before you shop in their store or on their website? What possible good could come from that?
Delaying shipment has NOTHING to do with a buyer potential for "scamming" you.
You will find that all the other sites similar to Ebay in size ALL have their own money processing program. There are some differences, but not necessarily good differences. So make sure you do your homework.
@kozmo_kramer wrote:Brian, please tell me anything in my statement that goes against the rules for posting, and, I have already cleared this with your customer service.
It's amazing how none of the customer service folks that I have spoken to were able to defend the new payment system. All I have heard is that CS constantly brings this up at meetings but for us sellers all we hear are crickets.
Ebay claims MP is great for us seller but that is nothing but a lie, nothing about the new payment system benefits the sellers, however Ebay makes almost another 3 points of our money and then holds our money while it's "processing".
As soon as my goods are gone, I will be gone, at least as far as being a seller, after that maybe my blood pressure will go down.
Why do you require, desire or expect someone to "defend" MP? What purpose could that serve?
Some people like MP, some don't, some will stay with Ebay and therefore go into MP and some won't. It is a decision for each of us to make on our own.
For myself, I feel no need nor do I desire to "defend" MP. I do however state the facts of how MP works and I will continue to do that as Ebay onboards more sellers each month and some come to the threads with their concerns. I personally do this because there is so much bad information on the thread and it is my hope to give those that need it the actual facts of how MP works so that they too can make an INFORMED decision on what is best for them.
It is my opinion that making an informed decision is extremely important. Making this decision based on gossip and assumptions can cause harm to a seller that is just not necessary. There are good things and there are things that I don't like about MP, but the facts are the facts and that is what I try to present to other posters and readers.
@kozmo_kramer wrote:Basically this is my way of letting people know what they have done to the sellers, at least the small guys.
In regard to defects, 1) buyers do not care generally, they can even rip off the sellers and they get their money back. I have been scammed sooooo many times by buyers and nothing ever happens to them. 2) I am not staying on this platform, I have very little listed and when those products are gone, I am gone.
This new system is nothing but a scam, Ebay had plenty of time to make this work like PayPal, but, why would they if they can float billions of dollars yearly. Our money sits in your bank for days before we are able to use it to purchase new products to keep our businesses open.
I have been with ebay since 1998, but no more, tired of getting screwed by buyers and now again by Ebay.
I'm a small seller. I ship as I have always shipped. I've been in MP for awhile now and it has never presented an issue, not once.
Sure, there is no reason for a buyer to care about defects. But I never said that. A seller however should care quite a bit about defects.
Ebay does NOT literally handle the money, that is Adyen. That is the purpose of having Adyen.
There is NOTHING a buyer can do to you as far as a scam if you ship after they submit payment to Ebay. I explained that earlier. They can't change a thing in MP just as they NEVER could when we used PP. There simply is NO risk.
If you are getting scams, it is by other means and has nothing to do with MP or the time between the time the buyers pay and when it hits your bank account.
@kozmo_kramer wrote:Even if it's true that Ebay is not handling payments sellers are still being ripped off by not having their payments within a reasonable time. As I stated before PayPal was able to do the same process and we had our money literally in our account the second we got paid and we could spend it within minutes of Paypal processing the payment.
Sellers have received NO benefits whatsoever from this change to MP, all that was accomplished was we now receive our money sometimes a week later. I am still waiting for payments to process from last Thursday. From what I am being told I won't probably get my payments till Wednesday or Thursday.
You keep trying to fight the process instead of understanding the process. You will cause yourself far less stress if you first learn the facts of how MP works. Then move to how you want them to work as the two definitely are not the same. And right now you are trying to impose how you want it to work how how it works and it simply isn't helpful for you.
When a buyer makes a payment it takes 1-2 days for that Pending payment to clear. Then the money moves to Available funds. From there it will transfer to the seller's bank account on the NEXT available business day for those doing Daily transfers and on the next available Wednesday for those on the Weekly transfer schedule.
If your Thursday payments did not move from Pending to Available until Friday or Saturday [1-2 days], then of course in the way MP functions right now it would not be transferred to you until Monday or Tuesday, today being Monday.
You can see the movement of your money in the Payments tab of your Seller Hub anytime you want to. You can see on the Summary report what is scheduled to transfer and when. And there are detailed reports and more under that same tab.
@b.a.toys wrote:I don't think we will be partaking in managed payments either... there is plenty of posts about what a nightmare managed payments are... when a platform gives you only ONE payment option- it's usually because they want to bully your policies and in effect make your "their company"... It is for this exact reason we no longer sell on Amazon- do yourselves a favor and learn to not give in- you'll do better in the long rung and not work so hard.
A couple things to consider. First you are responding to a poster that posted several months ago. Clearly they must have changed their mind as they are currently in MP.
Now what can really get confusing is some of the complaints you have been reading. Some are not necessarily factual. Many posters that have never even entered MP spread all kinds of stuff across threads. So make sure you do your own research or come and ask questions to make sure you are making your decision with the actual facts not gossip and assumptions.
You can ask any question you might have here. And here are some links to some easy to read info that also may help you.
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