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ozarkjoe
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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

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First edtions of Carroll Quigley's "Tragedy and Hope" are routinely listed for over $1000.  

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picture*books
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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

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bibliomonster wrote:

 

Its no biggie.......Only that **bleep** squirrel can REALLY hijack a thread.

 

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In the immortal words of the kid on the court house steps, "Say it ain't so Joe."

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hollowayd
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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

in reply to tcbooksandmedia

Are we limiting this to books in English?  I am thinking of Doctor Zhivago- the Feltrinelli edition published in 1959 reasonably makes $2k in acceptable collector's condition. Or Cien Anos De Soledad by Marquez. - Sorry if this has already been discussed/determined.

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bibliomonster
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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

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Its no biggie.......Only that **bleep** squirrel can REALLY hijack a thread.

 

The 'DMZ' strikethrough was a reference to the Demilitarized Zone (specifically the Korean - 38th parallel) separating North and South Korea (which both started and ended there) ; the war starting in 1950 roughly coincident with our cutoff date for 'the list'.

 

The line across which no man (except Dennis Rodman) shall pass......

 

If you haven't gathered, members of the BSB will at times make unrelated historical, foreign language, political, bibliographical, scientific, etc. references in a post in an (usually unsuccessful) attempt at humor.

 

On some level, we're all frustrated comedians /comediennes.

 

We just sell books to pay the light bill.

 

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~ Pretiumque et Causa Laboris ~
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ifmelfalls
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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

in reply to picture*books

Sorry, didn't mean to hijack the thread with the comment about the AA book. I don't even know what DMZ means :smileytongue:
(goes to google it)

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picture*books
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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

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bibliomonster wrote:

Oh if we could make exceptions......:smileylol:

 

The DMZ line is firmly held at 1950.

 

If we made exceptions this already daunting task would become impossible to reign in.

 

____________________________

 

Actually taking this on decade by decade might be a more reasonable way to deal with this project ?

Seven, decade long lists (of > $2,000 titles) seems a manageable chore. (forgive me if this has been suggested already)

 

It would seem the first 3 considered decades (1950's, 1960's, 1970's) would comprise most of the eligible titles anyway.

We should post a draft of the first few decades and work on revising it over time.

 

We'll still need a process for voting in / accepting titles that wobble on the $2k value margin....(we'll get that figured out eventually)

 

Also, is this limited to fiction or is non-fiction a player ? (not that any immediately come to mind, but the mention of the AA book begs that question)


This list should be standard trade editions of fiction books published from 1950 to present which normally sell for over $2,000 in VG/VG condition. The "normally sell for over $2,000" will help to identify the wobblers (i.e. the highest price listed does not qualify a book as valued over $2,000).

 

Somewhere earlier in the thread the "trade edition/fiction" clarification was made to eliminate the plethora of special edition art books (i.e. Helmut Newton and such) and the many numbered, limited edition slipcase editions. 

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bibliomonster
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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

in reply to ifmelfalls

Oh if we could make exceptions......:smileylol:

 

The DMZ line is firmly held at 1950.

 

If we made exceptions this already daunting task would become impossible to reign in.

 

____________________________

 

Actually taking this on decade by decade might be a more reasonable way to deal with this project ?

Seven, decade long lists (of > $2,000 titles) seems a manageable chore. (forgive me if this has been suggested already)

 

It would seem the first 3 considered decades (1950's, 1960's, 1970's) would comprise most of the eligible titles anyway.

We should post a draft of the first few decades and work on revising it over time.

 

We'll still need a process for voting in / accepting titles that wobble on the $2k value margin....(we'll get that figured out eventually)

 

Also, is this limited to fiction or is non-fiction a player ? (not that any immediately come to mind, but the mention of the AA book begs that question)

~ Pretiumque et Causa Laboris ~
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ifmelfalls
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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

in reply to tcbooksandmedia

This one is from 1941 but...

 

First Edition Alcoholic Anonymous, second printing recently sold for nearly $8,000.

 

 

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tcbooksandmedia
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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

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inky960 wrote:

Any idea what a fourteenth 1957 printing, in good condition w/dust jacket - might be worth?   Pic attached - outer corners of dust jacket are somewhat crimped; this is the only "issue" - otherwise, it is very good.

 

Inky


Maybe like 40 bucks. Wrong thread for this.

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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

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The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch  - could go over $5000 and would pass the $2000 limit

Ubik   - is hovering around $2000  When you can find copies in the condition mentioned

The Borrowers   Would be over $2000 if you could find a true VG+/VG+ copy, very few copies are.

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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

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Any idea what a fourteenth 1957 printing, in good condition w/dust jacket - might be worth?   Pic attached - outer corners of dust jacket are somewhat crimped; this is the only "issue" - otherwise, it is very good.

 

Inky

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picture*books
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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

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picture*books wrote:

Hello Michael: I was thinking >$2,000, but would be up for negotiation. Therefore:


 



    • Published from 1950 to present.

    • Standard trade edition.

    • 'Market value' >$2,000 in VG+/VG+ condition, unembellished with signature.

    • Single volumes only.

    • Exclude limited production art books (i.e. Newton's Sumo or the like).


Maybe just compile the list of books, then one of the more industrious can later order them by value?


Arthur C. Clarke's Reach For Tomorrow?

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cumos55
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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

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Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone 1st edition sells for $29,875


 


Published in 1997...A total of 500 copies published.. 


They were not sure how the public would respond to this novel... The rest is history


 


Link to


 


http://boingboing.net/2011/03/22/harry-potter-and-the-2.html


 


with a link to the auction.


 


--- also at


 


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-463564/Harry-Potter-edition-sells-7-000.html


 


 


--- Also at


 


http://www.catchthesnitch.com/books/first_editions/


 


with more at


 


http://bookclubs.barnesandnoble.com/t5/Book-Collecting/Harry-Potter-First-Editions/td-p/87289


 


with reference to a 15,000 GBP sale.


 


Good luck in determining the top price....


 


 


 

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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

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Ok, that all makes a lot of sense, I guess I had assumed that there were more collectors like myself using eBay first before sites like ABE or Heritage Auctions, as obviously, using your example of the "Wrinkle in Time" (I was also one of the bidders on this one ;-)) paying ~$2200 is generally much preferable to paying the $4000-$6000  elsewhere. As for your "Collectible Children's Books  on eBay" thread, I read through the entire thing after I found it several months ago. Incredibly useful information throughout, so thank you! 

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picture*books
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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

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I might add to the above, eBay is a very good buying venue for collectible books. This might sound contradictory, as I've said many times before here on the BSB: eBay is not a good selling venue for collectible books, but it is a good buying venue for collectible books.



I've found this especially true In my specialty area, first edition contemporary children's books with dust jackets, For the most part the primary competition for primo books are children's booksellers, who are not willing to pay anywhere close to the retail price of the book. While auctions are competitive, the prices tend to stall around the wholesale price. 



For examples, look at the prices realized for books on the 'Collectible Books on eBay' thread. The first edition Wrinkle In Time which sold for over $2,100 would be listing for $4,000-$6,000 in that condition on a traditional bookselling venue. I think the book could have sold for as high as $3,000 and the buyer would still make a nice profit. As a collector, I don't have a need for a second copy, so didn't participate competitively. If I didn't already own a copy, I would have bid over $2,500 for the copy being offered since the bookseller is quite reputable.

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picture*books
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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

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I'm fairly new to the hobby and couldn't help but notice a significant decline in prices of many of the books mentioned here on Ebay. I was curious if this was indicative of the rare book market in general or more Ebay specific?





For contemporary collectible books published from 1920-to-present, prices on eBay tend toward wholesale rather than retail. The range is in the 30%-to-40% of the retail price one would offer from either a books-only site or a bookseller's website.



The bidders on the contemporary collectible book auctions on eBay are booksellers in many instances. They buy the book here at a price they can make a reasonable profit.



For most book collectors, eBay isn't a primary venue for obtaining books. Most sellers of book on eBay are hobbyists rather than professional booksellers, which results in a wide array of credible listings. It's a lot of work for prospective buyers to determine the actual issue of the respective book being offered, and condition descriptions vary like snowflakes.



For the most part serious book collectors prefer to purchase items from online professional booksellers, reputable auction houses, book fairs, or brick-and-mortar book stores. EBay is not front-of-mind as a collectible book venue.

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obie_juan_cannoli
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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

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1995 - Northern Lights; Philip Pullman: >$2,000


 


1957 - On The Road; Jack Kerouac; >$3,000




It is pretty clear from this example that "value" has nothing to do with content, or impact on the culture. 



Such a shallow People, we Amurkins

"Less in my pockets meant less on my mind".
~~~~~~~~~~guess
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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

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Very informative discussion, I'm glad you brought it back so I wouldn't feel weird about posting on a long dead thread :smileyhappy: I'm fairly new to the hobby and couldn't help but notice a significant decline in prices of many of the books mentioned here on Ebay. I was curious if this was indicative of the rare book market in general or more Ebay specific?



Anyways, while these two are currently no where near the $5,000 mark, they are comparative price-wise with many other books previously listed. Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of Nimh by Robert O'brien and Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card.

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picture*books
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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

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A *bump* in time for holiday gift giving.

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kbooks1
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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

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Watership Down by Richard Adams is worth a pretty penny.

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