Proof etching by E Haller of Altes Schlohs

[vinro1958]

I have a proof etching by E Haller that I am going to sell on ebay and I'm not sure how to list it. I have only seen a handful of listings

 

for an E Haller and I don't know how well known he is. In entirety,  the paper measures  about 9.5 by 7.5 inches. The image is only 5 3/4 by 3.5. I would appreciate any suggestions you might have. Thank you in advance. Sue

[melda58]

I'm not sure what you are asking.  What do you mean by "how to list it."?  If you can be more specific we can try to help.  

Rita

[sonomabarn67]

You are not going to list using that photo are you?

Great photos help make sales

[smiling66 · Accepted solution]

 Your item is a test print for a post card.

Probedruck z.(ur) Ansicht meaning test print for viewing.

Altes Schlohs or Altes Schloß meaning Old Castle.

E. Haller was a German publishing company, that printed post cards. Verlag Ernst Haller.

Here are two of their post cards.

https://www.abebooks.com/paper-collectibles/Postkarte-Carte-Postale-41585367-Sigmarswangen-Panorama/...

https://www.abebooks.com/paper-collectibles/350563-K%C3%BCnstler-Haller-Aarwangen-Burg-Schloss/22663...

[vinro1958]

This is one of many. It just happened to be the one that included all the information, signature, content and so on, which is why I used it here.

Thank you for your help.

[vinro1958]

Hi there, I didn't know what it was but someone said that it was a test run for a postcard so I suppose that is what I  needed to know. I would ask if it had any value or what to list it for but I've discovered that value is related to what a person is willing to pay for it. Now that I know what it is, that should help. I hesitate to ask questions because sometimes I feel like I'm being attacked.  For example, the comment stating, " You are not going to list using that photo are you?" I  guess I would have worded that comment a little differently but I get the hint...my photo apparently sucks. Anyway, thank you for your kind reply. I will research postcard test runs to find an initial starting bid. I used to begin most auctions at 99 cents but I ended up paying people to  take my things. I haven't been able to find much information about E Haller but I have a little more context now that I  know what this is. 

I think I may be too sensitive but that's neither here nor there.

Thanks again Rita. Regards, Sue

[vinro1958]

Thank you very much. I appreciate your help and professionalism. "Smiling" suits you.

Regards, Sue 

[vinro1958]

Hi again,

I haven't been able to find any information about the E Haller publishing company or it's possible that I don't know where to look. My point is that I am trying to find out how old this etching is and what the value might be. I have held on to this for decades because of this reason.  Any additional help would be appreciated. 

Thank you, Sue

[argon38]

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@vinro1958 wrote:

This is one of many.

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If it's one of many, it would help to see at least some of the others.

I agree there is a dearth of online information about the postcard firm, but that fact may tell its own story. It may simply have been too small-scale and insignificant an operation to have left its mark on history. I'm sure there will be local records somewhere - but bear in mind not everything is online, or even digitised.

[argon38]

Well, now I am utterly mystified. Who is this Emanuel Haller? An unrelated artist?

https://www.justanswer.com/antiques/h7dgd-i-ve-found-dry-etching-done-e-haller-can-t-find.html 

https://www.nga.gov/collection/artist-info.4289.html 

[argon38]

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@argon38 wrote:

Well, now I am utterly mystified. Who is this Emanuel Haller? An unrelated artist?

https://www.justanswer.com/antiques/h7dgd-i-ve-found-dry-etching-done-e-haller-can-t-find.html 

https://www.nga.gov/collection/artist-info.4289.html 

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Yes, unrelated. The similarity of the signature threw me, but Emanuel was a different (more recent) artist.

[vinro1958]

Here are a couple more photos, I'm not sure

 

if this helps. If I decide to list it I will scan the etching to get a more accurate image. I was merely trying to gather as much info as possible before wasting  time if it's something that there is no interest in. When I first came across the etching there was no information about E Haller that I could find. There still isn't much but it looks old so I thought that I would find some stuff out there.

I also was confused about the other E Haller. I thought that it was the same person until I read this last batch of messages. You are right in the fact that the signature is very similar. 

Thank you, Sue

[sonomabarn67]

Holding this print in hand, what color is the paper? Is it dark yellow/tan like your pictures or is it cream color. It almost looks like your white balance is way off. Is it really that dark and muddy?

[vinro1958]

 It is somewhat dark but with less of an orange tint in the other photos.  Plus I noticed a shadow of my head on the lower part. I"ll try to scan it tomorrow.  I haven't had the best of luck with my scanner but it should be better than my pictures. 

The color of the paper is a bit lighter than store grocery bags. I don't have any idea how old this might be but I have kept it between cardboard and in a zip lock bag since it has been in my possession.  I've had it 30 years or so if I remember correctly. 

I'm still confused about artist Eugene Haller versus this E Haller. Artist or publisher? I don't know where to begin searching.

I have a couple of paintings done by Annie I Crawford and I had to go to Buffalo, NY where she had lived to find anything about her. Now her work is more well-known.  This could be the case with this work. I might have to pass it down.

Thank you for your help.  Sue

[argon38]

Sorry, I misunderstood your meaning re. "one of many." I thought you meant you had many similar items (as opposed to many photos of the same item).

I'm sure Emanuel Haller was a false lead - he isn't your artist. Your postcard view is likely earlier than his stated birthdate (1925). Emanuel was American, and his output seems to date from around the 1970s:

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/self-portrait-etching-man-beard-1983765213 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/114013836781 

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintage-sepia-tone-screech-owl-462516046

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintage-emmanuel-haller-artist-proof-1911335159 

Just to add to the uncertainty, the second postcard in smiling66's link is actually an Austrian castle. I'm seeing other views in the same "Haller-Ansichten" series, and they are all  Austrian. So I'm unclear now if the Haller responsible for these sketches is necessarily the same man as the Ernst Haller behind the German postcard firm. They may be different people.