10-29-2023 09:07 AM
Hi,
Super frustrating situation. Buyer filed an "item not received" case after delivery of their item to an old address. USPS tracking shows delivered "In/At Mailbox" of the address that was provided at the time of sale. I re-uploaded the delivered tracking number into the case but that's not giving me an option to close it. I can only refund or contact the buyer.
And when I try to seek additional help for this request ebay's automated system is saying "We still show that this item is on the way to the buyer" How is that possible when I have a concreted delivered tracking number from 10/14. I'm stuck in some stupid loop and can't get any help for this, all the while my funds are on hold.
I do feel sorry for the buyer for their mistake and would certainly help get the the package if it is returned to me, but there is no evidence that that will happen.
What do I do now? How can I escalate this? I cant find any help option that triggers "let ebay step in and help", I can only get the automated chat assistant, which is a dead end.
Thanks!
10-29-2023 09:12 AM
In the INR dispute, make sure you add the tracking number...
In the comments section, I would put the following:
"This was sent to the buyers CONFIRMED Ebay address on the order: (then copy and paste in the address on the order).
Tracking shows delivered on (copy and paste the tracking history from the USPS site)
It may take four days to close out
10-29-2023 09:22 AM
You're fine here @savoyshop . Tracking shows delivery. When you're presented the option to ask eBay to step in a few days from now, do that. The case will be found in your favor.
After the non-receipt case is closed it's up to you if you want to keep working with the buyer. I'd go ahead and refund them less shipping/fees.
Unless the buyer's attitude indicates adding them to your blocked list is more appropriate.
10-29-2023 09:37 AM
What does tracking show today? Could this be a new scam?
Buyer claimed not delivered. Oops! I forgot to change my address on eBay.
I'm sure they would have requested their mail to be forwarded to the new address thru USPS. Maybe that is what is happening, and they are trying to take advantage?
What site still shows the package in movement? eBay shipping status will not match the USPS site. USPS will have the latest and greatest update on package movement.
Let it ride out for now. Don't refund. Just keep communicating to the buyer within the case for eBay to see and for your records.
10-29-2023 09:51 AM
Your case will close in your favor it’s not instantaneous it does take some time. I actually had an INR take about 3 weeks to close.
Just be a little patient.
10-29-2023 09:55 AM
@jerseyboymusic eBay no longer confirms addresses. The OP only has to deliver to the address provided with the payment. That's what they should say in the comments- delivered to the address provided with the payment.
@wastingtime101 Why should they go ahead and refund the buyer less shipping fees?
The seller did their job and sent it to the address they were given. If the package is returned then they should refund but not until it's returned. It might not get returned.
10-29-2023 09:59 AM
@fab_finds4u wrote:@wastingtime101 Why should they go ahead and refund the buyer less shipping fees?
The seller did their job and sent it to the address they were given. If the package is returned then they should refund but not until it's returned. It might not get returned.
I agree. I thought it was returned which is why I suggested that. My mistake.
10-29-2023 10:37 AM
This buyer needs to take a little responsibility; they aren't a victim. If they didn't change their address in eBay and didn't put in a forwarding address at the post office, and the package was indeed delivered to the old address, then their next step should be to contact the person now living at their old address and see if they can't get their package back that way.
10-29-2023 10:50 AM
Absolutely do not refund until you get your item back(if ever). The buyer will lose the eBay case and one with his credit card if he decides to go that route(which you’ll be protected from anyway in this case). Just standby and go through the motions.
11-24-2023 10:49 AM
I am having the exact same problem. After the item was mailed, my buyer messaged me and actually admitted in the message he "did a stupid thing" and did not update his address. Tracking with USPS shows "delivered to agent." Not sure what "agent" means in USPS speak, but it was delivered. Now the buyer, despite admitting his mistake, has filed an item not received case. I responded with the tracking number and also detailed the situation in the comments, but eBay has not closed the case. It's just sitting there. My only options are to refund, upload tracking or send the buyer a message. Seems to me that uploading proof of delivery should automatically close this case in my favor.
11-24-2023 11:02 AM
It _should_, but eBay being eBay. At least these days they've finally put that much seller protection in. Had the buyer filed an SNAD you'd be out of luck. (don't even think of telling the buyer about filing an SNAD.)
11-24-2023 10:36 PM
@evelyb30 wrote:It _should_, but eBay being eBay. At least these days they've finally put that much seller protection in. Had the buyer filed an SNAD you'd be out of luck. (don't even think of telling the buyer about filing an SNAD.)
How could they file a SNAD without being in possession of the item, in order to return it?
11-25-2023 11:59 AM
It happens more frequently than you think. Buyer files INR, case closes then they file INAD to get their money back. They ship back nothing but a letter with a return label. Seller is forced to refund. Buyer feels vindicated, eBay doesn’t care.
11-25-2023 12:48 PM
Hmmm, but how frequently? I can't recall ever seeing a thread here where that happened to a seller.
11-25-2023 01:45 PM
@gurlcat wrote:
@evelyb30 wrote:It _should_, but eBay being eBay. At least these days they've finally put that much seller protection in. Had the buyer filed an SNAD you'd be out of luck. (don't even think of telling the buyer about filing an SNAD.)
How could they file a SNAD without being in possession of the item, in order to return it?
There are 10 reasons for Why are you returning? (Doesn't seem authentic was dropped when AG started.)
For 9 of them eBay requires that something is returned with tracking, to get a refund.
But what does eBay expect to be returned for Missing parts or pieces
-- when those parts or pieces or the entire item itself is missing
-- to return a missing part/piece/item for your refund?