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Need ID Two Old Buttons One German One Unknown

I need to ID two buttons.

 

Thank you!!!

 

The first shows a shield with a crown over it, and the shield has some markings, like a crest. The back is marked L Kolbe Co Darmstadt. That is in Germany. In researching the company, almost all I could find were references to them displaying buttons at the 1862 International Exhibition. I couldn't find any buttons with that backmark.

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/71l704mom724n9g/butt.darmstadt.small.jpg

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yqwswua8gdbbizs/butt.darmstadt.bk.small2.jpg

 

The second is one piece brass and has the cross pattee on it. Is this one Grman??? No back mark.

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pjg8upri66o2a8r/butt.cross.patte.small.jpg

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/u934rquvzrrzz1w/butt.cross.patte.small2.jpg

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