2 more mourning brooches(?)

[familycollectiblesstore]

I baought this as a celluiod victorian brooch, but is this infact a "mourning brooch"?  Also, this ( I think) jet glass brooch, mourning as well? or just cool? ( my daughter is coveting this, ..) V76

[1940fc]

No help on this kind of stuff..other than to say the bar pin actually looks like it might be gf? on my monitor..or have some gold content? 

[familycollectiblesstore]

It really does photo well, (2nd) I cannot find a mark, and it is different from cameos I have had, it looks hand carved, I will ask my daughter with better eyes than mine to give it a once over, it would not be the first time I have overlooked the obvious. I tend to do that a bit more than I used to..Thank You for looking! ( and replying 🙂 )  V76

[1940fc]

It may not necessarily have any gold markings..many years ago they did not have to mark it.  

I`m sure others more knowledgeable on this period stuff will weigh in soon 

[familycollectiblesstore]

Oh my goodness! I just realized you were spealing of the jet glass, not the cameo brooch I also just posted about, I really am loosing it a bit!  Very sorry, V76

[change4charlie]

I would think that second one is "Onyx" glass and seed pearls,,,I would have it tested for gold content.

if you scroll down you will see similiar ones here: 

http://www.morninggloryantiques.com/collectVictorian.html

A wealth of information , great for dating,,finding "findings" and so much more.

As for the flower one,,,that seems a little dull, to be either glass or onyx,,,

[familycollectiblesstore]

So did I get it wrong on the silver and black, not jet glass but onyx glass? ugh. Then what about these earrings, onyx glass as well? They have that same amazing shine and depth...

[mforjan]

That bar pin may be the stone onyx 

[oncoyotemountainart]

Are you sure the carved circular flower brooch is celluloid?  From the photos it kind of looks like carved natural jet? 

[bluedaemon23]

On the flower, there's an easy way to check. Hold it in your hand until it warms up and then sniff. Celluloid will smell like mothballs. (People online mislabel stuff as celluloid all the time and it always baffles me that they do because the nose knows better.) Jet will leave a characteristic streak on the inside of your toilet tank lid or the back of a tile; somebody else can advise you better on that.

[babajp2012]

It looks very old stuff nice stuff

[mforjan]

Here is a link that shows scratch tested materials, go to the bottom of the page:

http://www.jmfelton.com/jetid1.htm