could use some help ID'ing these 2 please

[super*dude]

[elheron-grande · Accepted solution]

Hello Super*Dude,  the first item with the two guys & sword could be

some sort of commemorative item.  Or a 'death item'.  On one side is a woman that could

be 'Mary' holding the Imperial Orb and two keys..  (The keys to heaven?).'

And 3 birds that could be doves flying towards the celestial spirits.

There is no indication of a value onnit.

The words Propugnato Ribus = Faith Exposed Wounds.

The second item has two 'hammers' that were used in mining in the

16 and 17th centuries.  This could be some sort of 'mining token'.

The crossed hammers were also used as a mint mark for one of the

colonies of Austria.

[elheron-grande]

Heron just remembered that the 'crossed hammers' mint mark was

found on a coin of Nagybanya.   (It takes longer to retrieve stuff from

this alt memory bank).   

[elheron-grande]

Also on the side with the 2 guys & sword is the abbreviation HISP.

This HISP is usually for Hispania and that equals Spain.