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Internet tax death of ebay

WOW, Just WOW.  Used clothing being taxed. Items from China being taxed. Who on earth is going to buy used clothing or poor quality items from China that can't be returned when you have to pay $20 tax? I mean for real?   Why is used stuff being taxed when it was taxed the first time it was sold? What's next? Will Garage sales charge tax?  I can't believe our elected officials allowed this to happen. I can understand tax on large businesses but small time people selling used stuff out of their closet is crazy.

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If you go to best buy, walmart, target and all the other stores you need to pay sale tax, so what is the problem paying sale tax buying on the internet?

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@cobbr wrote:

No. A little Socialism "IS NOT  a GOOD Thing". By Default!

A Good Thing is any intelligent approach to a situation that yields the best outcome.

A blanket approach by saying a little socialism or capitalism is a good thing.... is reckless.

The Only GOOD THING we have, at this point is the US Constitution, with those Amendments!

Second of all,  "All of my State Taxes are paid for"

And the reason why States become prosperous is by making money off of "intelligent" choices in Taxation! NOT Stupid choices.

For instance my state of "TEXAS", or Florida , or Nevada have incredible growth (unlike California) because Taxes have not driven consumers away.

 

NEXT: The RICH as long as they DID NOT TAKE IT FROM YOU or ME, or Steal it!

Should Get Richer! 

The MONEY I've  Made in my Career, The Government didn't Help Me Build that!  I worked my Ass off EVERYDAY of my life. To get my Degree and Higher pay.

So I don't owe Any **bleep** Body Anything! Except my Family and Friends!

 

Now if you or anyone else want to pay more taxes, (Like the Bernie Sanders method) Then God Bless! PLEASE Send more of your Money to the IRS!

I won't.

 

NEXT: My point is that Ebay's Tax results in me  Halting and Nearly stopping!  Over 75% to 95% of my Online purchases. Especially on Ebay. 

2) I live in Texas (With no State Tax ). So I have Never Paid Sales Taxes on Goods. 

3) I use to buy goods from Overseas. Which means there is no Tax because duty fees are paid already via shipping cost. But Ebay still Tax me? 

 

I hope they get rid of this draconian,  hurtful Tax. Before it Ruins Ebay!

 


Are you saying that Texas has no state sales/use tax?  Can you furnish documentary evidence that this is the case?

"It is an intelligent man that is aware of his own ignorance."
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The Texas state sales and use tax rate is 6.25 percent, but local taxing jurisdictions (cities, counties, special-purpose districts and transit authorities) also may impose sales and use tax up to 2 percent for a total maximum combined rate of 8.25 percent.

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@mrdutch1001 wrote:

The Texas state sales and use tax rate is 6.25 percent, but local taxing jurisdictions (cities, counties, special-purpose districts and transit authorities) also may impose sales and use tax up to 2 percent for a total maximum combined rate of 8.25 percent.


Okay!  That is somewhat similar to the situation in many states.  I was just curious as to the statement about living in Texas and Texas not having a tax.

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thank you for helping me understand the bigger picture, still not a fan but it is what it is.

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@chez-desir wrote:

thank you for helping me understand the bigger picture, still not a fan but it is what it is.


@chez-desir 

 

I'm not sure anyone is other than the state politicians.  But it could be worse.  At least we don't have to track and pay the tax to various states.  What a nightmare that would be.  If they lowered their thresholds, that could happen for many sellers and of course if they got rid of the marketplace laws.  But they get the biggest bang by having these Marketplace Facilitator laws, so I don't think there is anything to worry about.


mam98031  •  Volunteer Community Member  •  Buyer/Seller since 1999
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It's because imbeciles keep voting for the same people ( MOSTLY DEMOCRAT ) then complain when they're TAXED to death...  I just got taxed AND another sellers fee so I lost nearly $600.00 on a $3,050 dollar Ebay auction... that I took a 50% loss on to begin with! But... hell... let's just keep a VOTIN EM into office year after year after year!

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@majorrecord wrote:

It's because imbeciles keep voting for the same people ( MOSTLY DEMOCRAT ) then complain when they're TAXED to death...  I just got taxed AND another sellers fee so I lost nearly $600.00 on a $3,050 dollar Ebay auction... that I took a 50% loss on to begin with! But... hell... let's just keep a VOTIN EM into office year after year after year!


@majorrecord 

 

Sellers do NOT pay sales tax.  Buyers do, 100% of the time.  

 

And what do you mean by "another sellers fee so I lost nearly $600.00"?  How do you lose a seller's fee?  Ebay has always had fees for selling on the site.  It is the seller's responsibility to know this and take the fees into consideration when they price their item.  

 

Were you under the impression that it was free to sell here?  If so, what lead you to that conclusion?  How did Ebay cause you incur a 50% loss on an item that you priced and sold for $3,000?  And what does how you priced your item have to do with Democrats?

 


mam98031  •  Volunteer Community Member  •  Buyer/Seller since 1999
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@majorrecord wrote:

It's because imbeciles keep voting for the same people ( MOSTLY DEMOCRAT ) then complain when they're TAXED to death...  I just got taxed AND another sellers fee so I lost nearly $600.00 on a $3,050 dollar Ebay auction... that I took a 50% loss on to begin with! But... hell... let's just keep a VOTIN EM into office year after year after year!


Just as an aside - I have never seen a country where so many were hell bent on voting against their best interests.

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@7606dennis wrote:

@ag47silver-us wrote:
Taxation is theft. For a pension system already bankrupt through corruption. eBay didn't have a choice because the government would literally swat team raid them if they refused to become tax collectors. The government has forced all of us to work for them, for free, under threat of violent attack. So some lazy government employee can sit and do nothing useful that no one asked for that no one needs.

An interesting  take on the governments authority to levy taxes.  I'm not sure of the constitutional accuracy of your view though.  Alas!  The government, any government, needs funds to operate.  Levying taxes is how they get those funds.  I'm not sure how they would function without that authority.


True but Ebay found a way to monetize the collection of Sales Tax, at least for California.  Ebay is now going to declare that all California Sales that they collect Sales Tax for were sold from their facility in San Jose, CA, you know the facility with all of our inventory sitting in it.  Under this arrangement Ebay will file that all of the sales occurred in San Jose (even those from out of state) and give San Jose the 1% Sales Tax that was collected for the local governments thru out CA.  For the next 15 years Ebay will be allowed to keep 30% of all these taxes over $5 million annually which Ebay anticipates will be about $10 million per year.  

 

Here is one of the many articles about this tax sharing agreement "unlike any other" as the article states:

 

https://news.bloombergtax.com/daily-tax-report-state/no-strings-attached-tax-deal-shows-depth-of-eba...

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No I live in REALITY World! 

Goods bought in Texas from other states were not Taxed on Ebay. Period! 

That's the POINT! 

You need to wake up and stop Smoking the Liberal Tax hikes. 

 

We don't NEED More Taxes!  

I'm Unanimous in THAT! 

 

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@cobbr wrote:

No I live in REALITY World! 

Goods bought in Texas from other states were not Taxed on Ebay. Period! 

That's the POINT! 

You need to wake up and stop Smoking the Liberal Tax hikes. 

 

We don't NEED More Taxes!  

I'm Unanimous in THAT! 

 


The point is that it is NOT just purchases on Ebay that will now be taxed for you.  It is on the internet as a whole.  You can go to Ebay, Etsy, Amazon, Ruby Lane, Target, Sears, Walmart, etc. etc.  You will be charged a sales tax per the laws your state has passed.  


mam98031  •  Volunteer Community Member  •  Buyer/Seller since 1999
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This isn’t a new tax and has nothing to do with liberals. It was a decision made by the Supreme Court which was majority conservative last I heard.

 

use taxes have been around about as long as sales tax. Some people just didn’t pay what they were supposed to. Maybe that’s why the method of collection changed 🤔

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@cobbr wrote:

No I live in REALITY World! 

Goods bought in Texas from other states were not Taxed on Ebay. Period! 

That's the POINT! 

You need to wake up and stop Smoking the Liberal Tax hikes. 

 

We don't NEED More Taxes!  

I'm Unanimous in THAT! 

 


Actually, your statement is not entirely accurate.  Purchases made anywhere that were delivered within the borders of the state of Texas were taxable.  It was the responsibility of the buyers to pay the use tax directly to the state themselves if sales tax was not collected by the seller at the time of purchase.  Of course, you do not have to take my word for it.  Simply check with your state's taxing authority yourself.

 

The US Supreme Court decision in 2018 determined that it was constitutional for states to pass laws requiring out of state sellers to collect sales tax on sales delivered within their state and remit those taxes to them.  Many states, including Texas, lost no time in enacting such laws and thus eliminating the problem of buyers failing to pay their taxes as required by their state law.  

 

By the way, the new marketplace facilitator laws did not add or increase any taxes that the buyers have to pay.  They merely made sites like eBay, Amazon and others tax collectors for them.  This takes the burden off the buyer from having to remit the tax themselves making it less likely for the buyer to inadvertently become a criminal by evading the paying of sales tax they owe by forgetting to pay it to the state.  Wasn't that very thoughtful of the state legislators?! Smiley Wink  

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This is Soooo messed up!!!! Well I will be done selling on eBay!!! That’s for sure!!

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