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08-25-2014 05:41 PM
I think that a net 15% of sales is pretty cheap when compaired to gallerys and consignment shops who have 0.00001% of the traffic that eBay has. A Normal consignment shop would charge at least 30% and a Gallery or Antique shop charges between 30% and 50% of the selling price.
The difference for eBay is that they don't often have to deal with the costumers directly, display, describe, pack & ship the items being sold. That's why they charge less than a B&M venue.
I'm still trying to understand how a 10% FVF gets to be an overall 14+% expense. (It must be the FVF on shipping so I have to look at the 4% as some kind of strange "Shipping Agent" fee.
I started to keep my sales amounts seperate from my "shipping fees recieved" but I think it would be less complicated, from a book keeping standpoint, to list ALL money derived from sales (shipping included) as a single amount and then deduct the money paid to eBay and to the USPS, from my sales income.
It wouldn't matter if I listed the item as having Free Shipping or charged a shipping fee, the FVF would be the same either way. This works only if I have calculated the true shipping cost into my "Free Shipping" listings, which can be problematic. (best to fudge a little in my favor on shipping)
08-04-2014 05:30 PM - edited 08-04-2014 05:31 PM
Even after Paypal stop holding your money for the unreasonable amount of time they do as a new seller, EBay will still charge both final value fees and final value on shipping fees. I don't get the shipping fee part when I ship from the post office. Maybe that means that buying postage directly from EBay won't really be cheaper because they charge you a separate shipping FV fee. Or maybe it means that you may as well use EBay for your postage at a slightly lower initial cost because you're going to pay a final value shipping fee no matter how you get your postage.
08-04-2014 05:25 PM - edited 08-04-2014 05:26 PM
I agree. I guess I didn't read the never-ending fine print on EBay fees well enough before I started and found that both EBay and Paypal take a piece of the action. I can understand it because each is making a fee for their service. However, EBay alone charged 14.22% of my selling prices in just their fees not counting Paypal fees. That seems excessive.
What I really don't like is their final value fee on shipping. With both fee types, they are making nearly 15% of my sales which seems excessive. Why would they be entitled to any fee on shipping that I totally handle myself and buy at the USPS anyway? I've been burned many times even when I use their setting for actual postage even when the package is weighed and measured properly. Too often, I end up paying more to ship they EBay calculates for the buyer. I am still learning, but on smaller-priced items, that can put you in the negative fast! If you raise your price on the item to try to add cushion for costs, it may not sell because your price isn't competitive for the item. Catch 22. Hopefully, I will master all this soon.
06-14-2014 04:28 PM
relatively inexperienced in all the Ebay/PayPal nickle-and-diming BS even for low-end items. I have sold high-end stuff on Amazon though and it doesn't quite seem like they're gouging me or tricking me like EB and PP. Maybe it's just more up front. I don't like the underhanded feel of my most recent three experiences. How many pages of text must I read to understand all the fees? Also why does PayPal have to hang on to my money for three weeks after I sell something? That's the part that really irks me.
06-03-2014 04:02 PM
see that newspaper in your siggy.......
open it up and read the date...........................it's late Aug here..!
06-03-2014 01:49 PM
not the point. title of thread is Final Value Fee For Shipping????
i don't pay a fvf on shipping
i pay a fvf on total sale price, just like the buyer pays for an item, $20 for the item + $10 s&h or $5 for the item + $25 s&h, total price paid.
beautiful day here in bawstan, how was montreal?
06-03-2014 12:28 PM
It only took a few bad apples( TO GIVE EBLECH AN EXCUSE ) to ruin it for everyone, WITH THIS HUGE CASHGRAB !
06-03-2014 10:32 AM
I understand why they did it. I remember seeing these clowns selling something for .99 cents with $59 shipping. It only took a few bad apples to ruin it for everyone.
I think ebay should not charge FVF on shipping when you buy postage through them for actual cost. So if I sell an item and ship it in a small flat rate box and the standard rate of 5 and some change, I shouldnt be charged by ebay for a FVF. I am totally cool with them charging FVFs for anything over the regular rate. So if I charge 10 to ship and the actual rate was 5, charge me a FVF on the 5 dollar profit I made.
06-02-2014 05:38 PM - edited 06-02-2014 05:39 PM
I know what all the above sellers are feeling. I just analyzed my May 2014 bill.
On $3,800 of gross sales, my NET profit after COGS, FVF and PayPal fee was a NEGATIVE $93.67. EBay fees total was a POSITIVE $482.67. I am in the process of increasing all prices in my EBay store in order to show some kind of a profit. I know this will decrease my sales but I don't want NEGATIVE profit sales. I'm in business for me and my family, not to make EBay rich. Charging Final Value Fees on shipping is absurd. We lose money on every shipping charge. I hope the geniuses in San Jose wake up and realize the are pushing us out of online business. I won't be on EBay very much longer if I can't turn a profit.
And if eBay didn't charge FVF on shipping, you would have had a whopping $9 profit for the month. Even if eBay were totally free, your profit for the month would have been slightly more than a minimum wage worker earns in a week. Sorry, but if you spend all the time and effort to make $3,800 of sales, and can't figure out how to make more than nine bucks, you've got much bigger problems than eBay's shipping FVF.