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kairaa · ‎09-22-2023

Clearly old and 18th century clothing with neckcloth, blue ribbon and mostly hidden gold medal. Oil on canvas, Darkened with age….

what else? Recognize the style, possible artist??

md1919 · ‎09-22-2023

I am seeing 19th century clothing

1786davycrockett · ‎09-22-2023

@kairaa

Can you get a better close-up on what can be seen of the medal?

melda58 · ‎09-23-2023

I agree - mid 1800's.

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maxine*j · ‎09-23-2023

Have you taken it out of the frame to see if there might be a signature hidden by the frame?

And if you will provide a good photo of the back, that will help determine its age and, possible, gives clues as to its origin (American vs European, say).

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sonomabarn67 · ‎09-23-2023

Reminds me a bit of The Skater by Gilbert Stuart and the neck scarf looks 18th c as well. If there are miter joins on the stretcher then 185o's + but blunt cuts we'll be looking at pre 1850s.

kairaa · ‎09-23-2023

Unfortunately, the metal is very blurry, stylized to no detail. But I know right? That would be so more helpful

kairaa · ‎09-23-2023

I thought I did but guess it didn’t upload. It’s delicate so we didn’t take it out Id the old Fran in the back.

sonomabarn67 · ‎09-23-2023

So, like I said, these blunt cuts (form a strainer) (as opposed to miter cuts that are called a keyed stretcher) help date the painting to 1850/60 back, Could be 18th cent. These elements evolved over time.

sonomabarn67 · ‎09-23-2023

The painting has been cleaned and varnished.

rokkworks · ‎09-23-2023

Looks a bit like President James Buchanan, perhaps?

lux.ra_14 · ‎09-24-2023

I say first half of the 19th century, based in part on the neck stock he's wearing.

sonomabarn67 · ‎09-25-2023

Could someone explain to me the difference between a late 18th-century and an early 19th-century neck scarf? They all look the same in these old portraits. Did they change the date when it was called one or the other?