Are these Chinese items / coins the real deal or fake?

[diamondsells]

Hi everyone, I was recently asked to sell this collection of what appears to be Chinese coins and/or items. My gut tells me that they are all replicas. Does anyone have an opinion about them? Any help would be appreciated. If you need more pictures just say the word and I'll post them.  Thank you all in advance.

[argon38]

Your query requires specialist knowledge, and I think you might be better off asking on a dedicated coin collectors' forum - a Google search will bring up many places to try. Others here may have insights to offer, but it certainly it isn't something that I'm qualified to voice an opinion on.

[maxine*j]

You're right to be very cautious.   Coins are faked, and so are coin holders, writing, inks, threads, all the rest.   I agree with Argon that this needs a specialist and in-hand inspection.  

[alcoforever]

If those are real, they are likely quite valuable.   For that reason, I would take them to a major auction house.   They can both verify them for you as well as sell them on consignment.   A major auction house is a much safer place to sell valuables than ebay.

[argon38]

The only thing I would say is that "3000 years BC" caption is obviously absurd.

[vietcoinscollection]

They are most likely fakes.  I'm not an expert on Chinese coins so I would not want to condemn them outright.

These may be from an old tourist set that has been cut up.

You can visit a website (non-commercial) and compare your coins to those on file.

the website is zeno.ru  . You can ask the webmaster if he would let you upload images.

His email is at the top of the page.  

[vietcoinscollection]

The bottom one is a iron Japanese coin (marked 3000 years old) and appears to be genuine.

[argon38]

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@vietcoinscollection wrote:
The bottom one is a iron Japanese coin (marked 3000 years old) and appears to be genuine.

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The ink inscription says "3000 years BC" (= 5000 years old) - I said the caption  (not the coin) is absurd.

[argon38]

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@argon38 wrote:

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@vietcoinscollection wrote:
The bottom one is a iron Japanese coin (marked 3000 years old) and appears to be genuine.

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The ink inscription says "3000 years BC" (= 5000 years old) - I said the caption  (not the coin) is absurd.

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From what I can find, even 3000 years old seems an absurd age for a Japanese coin, let alone "3000 years BC."

[vietcoinscollection]

here are two amulets that seem to match yours.

These two were donated to the Versailles Museum by someone who visited the orient in the early 1900's.  So I would say the pieces you have are from that time period.  Chinese collectors were avid buyers of replica coins especially in the late 1800's.  As Westerners traveled to Asia they bought coins and other trinkets.  The rooster is a new years piece for the year of the rooster.

[argon38]

I am confused (not unusual for me!). So none of the coins is Japanese? How old would that coin with the weird "3000 years BC" caption really be, if genuine?

[vietcoinscollection]

That coin 3000bc is Japanese. They were made from 1700's to 1800's. You would have to have a clear picture to identify it exactly.
The other items are Chinese, some are "coinage" and others amulets.

[diamondsells]

My sincere thanks to everyone for all of your help. I had a feeling that some may be Japanese but I wasn't sure. Honestly I am a bit confused myself but I will read and then re-read all of your posts and probably contact Heritage and/or Sotheby's for their advice as well.  Many many thanks again to all the caring people who are so willing to share their knowledge.  

[vietcoinscollection]

I see you posted on Zeno.ru 

Also post size and weight.

[diamondsells]

Yes, I posted on zeno earlier today. It took me a while but I think (operative word think) I figured out how the site works but I have not mastered it yet. I keep looking back and forth trying to decipher messages.