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Guaranteed Delivery date gets changed ????

I saved a screenshot after placing my order to buy it now. The item was guaranteed to be delivered by May 26, 2020. Now, the guarantee is gone and is changed to an estimated delivery date of May 28, 2020. A guarantee is a binding agreement. The changing of the guarantee after the order creates a case of estoppel where based on the reliance of the eBay guarantee, I then place an order which I otherwise would not have. Also by changing the terms and removing the guarantee after the order, eBay has shown bad faith in an attempt to avoid paying damages in the amount of $5 should the delivery be late. 

To add insult to injury, after reading the thread titled "Guaranteed Delivery date gets changed ???" I did as instructed and contacted eBay support. The transcript is attached below as a reference.

 

 

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Mishael
10:01 AM
Thank you for contacting eBay my name is Mishael.
 
Mishael
10:01 AM
May i have your first and last name for verification purposes
 
johnburnham1983
10:01 AM
Hi Mishael, my name is John
 
Mishael
10:01 AM
How are you today John?
 
johnburnham1983
10:02 AM
Im ok, how are you ?
 
Mishael
10:02 AM
I'm good thank you for asking.
 
Mishael
10:02 AM
How may i help you today?
 
johnburnham1983
10:04 AM
the item was listed as "Fast 'N Free" guaranteed May 26.now it doesn't show any of that, just estimated delivery. I saved the screenshot of my order page showing it was guaranteed.I ordered the item 4 days ago from a seller only a couple hundred miles awa
 
johnburnham1983
10:04 AM
away
 
johnburnham1983
10:05 AM
it still hasn't shipped
 
johnburnham1983
10:06 AM
why did the guaranteed "fast 'n free" shipping change after i placed my order ?
 
Mishael
10:07 AM
it should not be changed, once you placed your order your seller cannot make any changes on any details that she/he provide on the lsiting
 
johnburnham1983
10:07 AM
it has changed
 
johnburnham1983
10:08 AM
i have a screenshot showing my order as fast n' free guaranteed
 
Mishael
10:08 AM
did you ask your seller regarding this?
 
johnburnham1983
10:08 AM
now on my summary page it shows it as estimated delivery
 
johnburnham1983
10:09 AM
no, he is not supposed to be able to changes
 
Mishael
10:09 AM
on the guaranteed what is the date?
 
johnburnham1983
10:09 AM
may 26
 
johnburnham1983
10:10 AM
i can send you the screenshot of the original order that shows the terms i agreed to of "fast 'n free guaranteed
 
Mishael
10:10 AM
so its the same, alright John once haven't received this on 26th we can file immediately a claim for non receipt.
 
johnburnham1983
10:10 AM
no it is not the same
 
johnburnham1983
10:10 AM
it was guaranteed when i ordered
 
johnburnham1983
10:11 AM
now it no longer shows as guaranteed
 
Mishael
10:12 AM
Lets see if your order will arrive on 26th if not inform us immediately
 
johnburnham1983
10:14 AM
why was it changed from guaranteed to estimated ?
 
johnburnham1983
10:15 AM
i dont like when a company changes the terms of an agreement after the order is placed. can you explain this ?
 
Mishael
10:15 AM
soryy but i have no idea, i shouldn't be changed.Your seller can answer that
 
johnburnham1983
10:16 AM
the seller is not supposed to be able to change anything after the order is placed
 
johnburnham1983
10:16 AM
you said it yourself earlier
 
johnburnham1983
10:17 AM
it seems ebay has changed it
 
johnburnham1983
10:17 AM
not the seller
 
Mishael
10:17 AM
that's correct as well as ebay because we are just a platform
 
Mishael
10:17 AM
We are no access on changing it, its beyond our scope
 
johnburnham1983
10:18 AM
then may i speak to someone that can explain why it has changed ?
 
johnburnham1983
10:19 AM
i saved the screenshot from when i placed my order showing it was fast 'n free guaranteed
 
Mishael
10:19 AM
its better to ask your seller regarding this,
 
johnburnham1983
10:20 AM
that guarantee is a binding agreement between me and ebay.
 
johnburnham1983
10:20 AM
may i speak to the supervisor
 
Mishael
10:21 AM
we have no available supervisor right now.
 
johnburnham1983
10:21 AM
can you provide me with the contact number for ebay corporate and ebay legal department
 
Mishael
10:22 AM
You can file a claim once you did not received your order on May 26,2020
 
johnburnham1983
10:23 AM
yes but the guarantee does not show on my summary, it only shows estimated date
 
johnburnham1983
10:24 AM
so if it is late i will not be able to be compensated for the late shippment
 
Mishael
10:24 AM
you have the right to decline or return the item if it is late
 
johnburnham1983
10:25 AM
i agreed to shipping with a guaranteed date. if it is late i am to receive a $5 credit
 
Mishael
10:26 AM
you can negotiate that on your seller
 
johnburnham1983
10:26 AM
so by removing the guarantee from my summary i will not be able to request the $5 if it is late
 
johnburnham1983
10:27 AM
no, that is an agreement between me and ebay
 
Mishael
10:27 AM
like i said you ask your seller regarding the $5.
 
johnburnham1983
10:28 AM
may i speak to a supervisor
 
Mishael
10:28 AM
No available supervisor right now
 
johnburnham1983
10:28 AM
can you provide me with the contact number for ebay corporate and ebay legal department
 
Mishael
10:29 AM
We can provide that once you have not received your order on 26th, am i clear?
 
johnburnham1983
10:32 AM
this is very poor customer service. first you state that no one should be able to change the terms of the guarantee after the order is placed. you can not provide an explaination why ebay changed the terms anyway, then you tell me there is no supervisor,
 
johnburnham1983
10:33 AM
then you cant provide corporate or legal department contact information
 
Mishael
10:34 AM
We are within the period of your delivery date, file your complain once you have not received youe order on your expected delivery date
 
johnburnham1983
10:35 AM
yes, but i am complaining now because ebay changed my guarantee after the order was placed
 
johnburnham1983
10:36 AM
and you wont provide me with an answer, or provide contact information to someone that can
 
Mishael
10:37 AM
ask your seller regarding the changes
 
johnburnham1983
10:37 AM
i am asking ebay
 
johnburnham1983
10:38 AM
the seller is unable to make a change after the order is placed
 
Mishael
10:38 AM
as well as ebay
 
johnburnham1983
10:38 AM
the only entity capable of changing it is ebay
 
Mishael
10:38 AM
No its not us
 
johnburnham1983
10:39 AM
ok, i will continue to look into this issue with other ebay support providers
 
Mishael
10:39 AM
sure!
 
Mishael
10:39 AM
Thank you for partnering with eBay. ,Have a great day and Stay safe!
 
 
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Re: Guaranteed Delivery date gets changed ????

brian@ebay Hi, a prime example here of why sellers do not like how eBay handles the whole "Fast and Free" and "guaranteed" delivery estimates.  This is 100% an eBay issue and the CS agent tries to throw the seller under the bus MULTIPLE times, including telling the buyer he can RETURN the item based on eBay's changes to the item's delivery estimates.    

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Re: Guaranteed Delivery date gets changed ????

Hi @johnburnham1983, that's just the day of deliverance if you buy it TODAY. Come back to the page tomorrow, and it will have advanced by a day.

 

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Next week, it will show an even later date. No need to bother Brian with our mistake.

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Re: Guaranteed Delivery date gets changed ????

Re: guaranteed delivery on or before May 26th

 

If you fail to receive your purchase in a timely manner, contact eBay support on May 27th, to provide notice & demand for issuance of

a $5 coupon

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Re: Guaranteed Delivery date gets changed ????

When you have the facts, you argue the facts

When you have the law, you argue the law

 

 

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Re: Guaranteed Delivery date gets changed ????

Hi Bebe,

 

That may be true, however, it does not explain why in my summary it no longer shows guaranteed delivery. Instead it shows an estimated delivery date. See attached.

 

 

 

 

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