12-05-2019 11:22 PM
I have at least a dozen vintage PC's that bring $75-150 on eBay and am considering listing them.
I think the UPS mantra is Double Box w/2" cushioning.
Too bad someone doesn't sell Double Box pairs precisely for this UPS requirement.
Box prices are not low and bubble wrap is more valuable than dilithium.
Any kind of DIY balloon wrap?
Ways to build boxes?
Trying to think "outside the box."
Thanks
Tom
12-08-2019 09:40 AM
*correction* (before the measurement police show up LOL)
$0.05/sq ft... not cu ft
each sheet is 12"x12" (not 12x12x12)
Carry on 😉
12-08-2019 09:51 AM
@tomatbay What I do is go to a local Appliance store or Hardware store that sells appliances, Monday is the best day especially after a holiday weekend where they run their appliance sales. They have tons of Styrofoam that they throw out or let the local Styrofoam cup company (Dart in our area) pick it up and turn it in to cups and plates ... they are glad to get rid of it. Take a pickup truck, stretch film and tape ... most times they have it stuffed in one of the used appliance boxes so you need to close it or put a cap on it ... in 3 years I have not paid a dime for any of the Styrofoam from these places ... just tell them you are a re-shipper and were wondering if they might have an Styrofoam they are willing to part with from appliance boxes ...
12-08-2019 09:56 AM
Bubble wrap is too fragile to support a desktop computer case. Companies such as HP and Dell use two form-cut pieces of fairly hard foam that slip over the front and back of the case, which then fit exactly into a heavy-duty corrugated box (Twice the thickness of a standard box).
12-08-2019 09:59 AM
@tomatbay wrote:
I'll have to check out Box Brothers.
Bubble wrap: a cubic foot is about $15 and would not be enough to do a single PC with 2" thick all around.
I was just thinking: STRAW! A bale of hay is VERY cheap. In fact, it's used to ship antiquities: fill up a big crate and then lay the item in the bed of straw.
Not that I would use straw, but if I did it would be bagged, just as when sending books. Never know where the carrier will leave the package. Wet straw, eeeew
And the critters that can be in straw, eeeew
12-08-2019 10:01 AM
@tools* wrote:Bubble wrap is too fragile to support a desktop computer case. Companies such as HP and Dell use two form-cut pieces of fairly hard foam that slip over the front and back of the case, which then fit exactly into a heavy-duty corrugated box (Twice the thickness of a standard box).
One term they use for that thicker corrugate is "Double wall" ... its basically two C-Flute pieces joined in the center by a common piece of corrugate ... HP and other manufacturers stiffen that board with coatings or laminates ... its expensive but very durable and also helps to act as a moisture barrier so the corrugate does not soften from moisture.
12-08-2019 10:15 AM - edited 12-08-2019 10:16 AM
@buyselljack2016 wrote:
@tomatbay wrote:
I'll have to check out Box Brothers.
Bubble wrap: a cubic foot is about $15 and would not be enough to do a single PC with 2" thick all around.
I was just thinking: STRAW! A bale of hay is VERY cheap. In fact, it's used to ship antiquities: fill up a big crate and then lay the item in the bed of straw.Not that I would use straw, but if I did it would be bagged, just as when sending books. Never know where the carrier will leave the package. Wet straw, eeeew
And the critters that can be in straw, eeeew
But if the buyer has a horse, it's a win-win. And who doesn't have a horse these days.
12-08-2019 10:21 AM
@penguins_dont_fly wrote:
@tomatbay wrote:
I'll have to check out Box Brothers.
Bubble wrap: a cubic foot is about $15 and would not be enough to do a single PC with 2" thick all around.
I was just thinking: STRAW! A bale of hay is VERY cheap. In fact, it's used to ship antiquities: fill up a big crate and then lay the item in the bed of straw.I pay $0.05/cu ft for 3/16 bubble.
I buy it in bulk ... 700' at a time ... from a supplier here on eBay.
It may be worth it to buy bulk if you have a lot of PCs to ship.
Please don't use straw.
Straw dust will get into the machines ... into every nook and cranny .. into every port and socket (inner and outer) .. just don't do it.
1728 / (.187 x 12 x 12) = 64 sheets /cu ft = $3.20 / cu ft which isn't too bad.
So you order about 11 cu ft at a time on eBay. And that price is shipped? That's amazing. Boxes full of air would definitely be "Volume" which is expensive. But I'll look into this! (WalMart is about 3x the cost so it might be possible.)
12-08-2019 10:24 AM
you just forced me to make a trip to the cellar to see if there had been a "midnight raid" on my box of shipping foam pieces
Some years back I got a few large sections of the thin sheet foam. The local outdoor goods shop got in a Spring shipment of kayaks. They were individually wrapped in those sheets, and then bubble wrap.
They gave me all the sheet foam that I wanted, as the next step for them was to haul it to the transfer station for disposal. They did mail order, so would not give up the bubble wrap
At the time, I did not foresee how much of the sheet foam I could eventually use. Now I wish I had packed more of it in my truck. It is now a 25 mile drive out of my way. They would likely give me more for the asking, but it would be a "come get it now" deal.
I from time to time snag a box or two from the drug store, or grocery store when I see one that looks promising. An ice cream box just saved me the trouble of possibly having to make a frankenbox to ship with. I go to BJ's. Buy a bag of salad, and grab 1-2 boxes on the way out.
12-08-2019 05:03 PM
@buyselljack2016 LOL! Glad your Styro-Stash was still down there ... just let me know when you are going on vacation (hee-hee) ... I'll come by and check on it for you!!!
The other thing I have found effective are those interlocking 1/2 thick light weight foam floor pads, like something you might put in front of a work bench for soft footing for the old hoofers ... It is really nice because you can cut it with a craft knife. The Styro I often use a 1/2 size cross-cut saw then vacuum up the small pieces that go all over the place. Some pieces I can of course use a knife ...
12-09-2019 02:35 AM
@mr_lincoln wrote:@tomatbay What I do is go to a local Appliance store or Hardware store that sells appliances, Monday is the best day especially after a holiday weekend where they run their appliance sales. They have tons of Styrofoam that they throw out or let the local Styrofoam cup company (Dart in our area) pick it up and turn it in to cups and plates ... they are glad to get rid of it. Take a pickup truck, stretch film and tape ... most times they have it stuffed in one of the used appliance boxes so you need to close it or put a cap on it ... in 3 years I have not paid a dime for any of the Styrofoam from these places ... just tell them you are a re-shipper and were wondering if they might have an Styrofoam they are willing to part with from appliance boxes ...
Yes, and these molded Styrofoam pieces are easy to cut to size with a bread knife.
12-09-2019 02:39 AM
@tools* wrote:
@buyselljack2016 wrote:
@tomatbay wrote:
I'll have to check out Box Brothers.
Bubble wrap: a cubic foot is about $15 and would not be enough to do a single PC with 2" thick all around.
I was just thinking: STRAW! A bale of hay is VERY cheap. In fact, it's used to ship antiquities: fill up a big crate and then lay the item in the bed of straw.Not that I would use straw, but if I did it would be bagged, just as when sending books. Never know where the carrier will leave the package. Wet straw, eeeew
And the critters that can be in straw, eeeew
But if the buyer has a horse, it's a win-win. And who doesn't have a horse these days.
@tools* wrote:
@buyselljack2016 wrote:
@tomatbay wrote:
I'll have to check out Box Brothers.
Bubble wrap: a cubic foot is about $15 and would not be enough to do a single PC with 2" thick all around.
I was just thinking: STRAW! A bale of hay is VERY cheap. In fact, it's used to ship antiquities: fill up a big crate and then lay the item in the bed of straw.Not that I would use straw, but if I did it would be bagged, just as when sending books. Never know where the carrier will leave the package. Wet straw, eeeew
And the critters that can be in straw, eeeew
But if the buyer has a horse, it's a win-win. And who doesn't have a horse these days.
I have horses and the only time I use straw is if I have a mare about to foal. It generally sucks as bedding, we only use it for foals as it is a softer landing while they are struggling to stand and sticks to them less than sawdust or pine shavings.
12-09-2019 07:35 AM
@lja440 wrote:
I have horses and the only time I use straw is if I have a mare about to foal. It generally sucks as bedding, we only use it for foals as it is a softer landing while they are struggling to stand and sticks to them less than sawdust or pine shavings.
The things I learn around here...