03-20-2018 06:08 AM
03-21-2018 12:55 PM
@Anonymouswrote:There is alot of Great sellers on here, that gave me great deals, We are going to be just fine, Thank you and God bless as well!
IT must be devastating to go through something like. I'm so glad you got some great deals and are going to be fine.
I admire your postive outlook and spirit. God must be pleased!
03-21-2018 01:09 PM
@tunicaslotwrote:ted - auctions on Ebay are pretty much a thing of the past unless you have something collectible that's true. You've always been pretty neutral and reasonable - but these past few responses - what happened?
I've sold nothing but auctions here from the day I showed up right through today. I understand that's not a good model for selling Chinese tube socks, but that doesn't necessitate undermining the format for sellers who use it... which is exactly what they've already done in many categories.
Anyhow, I think it's perfectly neutral and reasonable to surmise the current state of the site is verging on a trainwreck... they've got product pages telling buyers my item is some other product it is not, they've got several presentation features telling buyers shipping is "Free" when it's not, they've got a product catalog that's full of errors... and that keeps listing folks items in the wrong category for them, they've got buyer fraud on the rise to a point it could soon become an outright conflagration and they're throwing fuel on that fire with "Free Returns" programs, and they just raised fees AGAIN!
03-21-2018 01:13 PM
When we can no longer make a profit here - then we may go elsewhere or just quit all together.
And that is prety much my point... I am advocating on behalf of eBay and their monthly invoice they send me, because when it gets to that level of dysfunction (and it did already for half of what I sell - back in 2010) my monthly invoice will be ZERO. There are no winners in that scenario.
03-21-2018 01:16 PM - edited 03-21-2018 01:19 PM
Buyers are disappointed going to a grocery store for the sale item - only to find they are out of stock .
Actually only stocking 2 or 5 of a loss leader sale item is a staple marketing technique in many stores, including grocery and drug stores.......AND it is a common lure to get those black friday suckers in line minutes after eating Thanksgiving dinner.
That marketing ploy is a success and why stores continue to use it. If it wasn't there would be few buyers waiting in line at 6 in the morning because of the hundreds that did the work and walked away disappointed with nothing the year before and will never shop at the store again.. The stores know that will never happen as the lure of a bargain is too great and will bring them back to get the same results again.
03-21-2018 01:29 PM
Totally agree with all that - but are we changing anything continually complaining about it everyday? I spent the day thrifting and listing for the most part - I'm here to make money - not to complain about things I can't change.
I get people are upset and frustrated - but we have no say in the matter - nor do they care - so use the site to the best of your ability with how it exists at the present. Make plans for the future - no sense so many letting this consume them like it does.
After finding out that the results were back and the tumor I had removed was benign - these problems with Ebay mean so little to me.
03-21-2018 01:42 PM
Totally agree with all that - but are we changing anything continually complaining about it everyday?
Maybe, maybe not. In the old days, definitely not, there was no one from eBay here at all. Now, I actually get replies from eBay staff, I know they're seeing what I'm writing... for example after months of denying there was any problem, trinton now says they are now "studying" solutions to the multi-variation listing abuse that is going on (I left that one out of my laundry list of issues ^^^, but that is one that is actually reducing my own buying on eBay).
...but we have no say in the matter - nor do they care - so use the site to the best of your ability with how it exists at the present.
brian_t was unable to replicate the latest "Free Shipping" glitch, he now understands what the OP of that topic was talking about, and has sent the information to someone to fix it... will they fix it? IDK, but they sure aren't going to fix any problem they don't know about or can't find. syed is actually trying to fix problems with the product catalog.
Make plans for the future - no sense so many letting this consume them like it does.
I've always considered eBay a week-to-week proposition because of the periodic seller purges and random site changes.
After finding out that the results were back and the tumor I had removed was benign - these problems with Ebay mean so little to me.
I don't think I've ever implied this nonsense was on par with life and death issues, but (unlike myself) there are people who run full time businesses here and who depend on it to meet rent (or pay medical bills). But even if it's no more than a pastime, there's no reason one shouldn't expect something they're paying for to work correctly.
03-21-2018 02:02 PM
Here is my take on this, FWIW. The first online shopping experience where you could buy anything was eBay. At least it was for me in the late 90's. That has changed DRASTICALLY. Most folks I know between 20 and their mid-30s think Amazon is the place to shop. They have Prime accounts, stream music, stream movies, and do alot of buying there. Because of Prime, they don't even consider other online markets. It's what was being HEAVILY marketed and talked about when they got to the "buying" age. I believe there are alot of folks older than that who consider both eBay and Amazon when buying. I ALWAYS look to eBay first because I'm comfortable with it...never been a big fan of the way Amazon presents products. 🙂 As eBay attempts to attract the younger demographic, it's possible that they are inadvertently driving some older buyers away. Hopefully, it attracts the younger folks, but I know it's tough to get them because they are VERY tied in to Amazon services. They have very STICKY services
03-21-2018 02:08 PM
I am a single anecdote, or n = 1, as they say in science but I have been buying things more than ever here. Any earnings from selling are used for buying in addition to funds from my regular paycheck.
03-21-2018 02:21 PM
@tunicaslotwrote:Totally agree with all that - but are we changing anything continually complaining about it everyday? I spent the day thrifting and listing for the most part - I'm here to make money - not to complain about things I can't change.
I get people are upset and frustrated - but we have no say in the matter - nor do they care - so use the site to the best of your ability with how it exists at the present. Make plans for the future - no sense so many letting this consume them like it does.
After finding out that the results were back and the tumor I had removed was benign - these problems with Ebay mean so little to me.
The topic is "where did all the customers go- and why? These "complaints" are the "why".
I'm a very long time eBay power buyer- not only for myself personally, but for my three businesses as well. All the changes and constant fiddling eBay has done over the last ten years, plus all the "buyer protection" stuff that eBay seems to suddenly be loath to enforce with sellers who know how to game the system and be uncooperative have caused me to try elsewhere... because simply from a productivity point of view with my businesses eBay seems bound and determined to cost me more productivity with every change.
When I'm sourcing parts for customers I don't have TIME to spend hours wading through the non relevant junk full of Chinese duplicate listings. The end result is that I now come to eBay dead last, and only if I can't find what I need in other bookmarked places. Ten years ago, it was only eBay, and I seldom- if ever- came up short on a search.
When you've got a guy like me who has made eBay purchases for well over 20 years on this and a previous ID, and is very familiar with all the little tricks to ferret out merchandise throwing up his hands and going elsewhere... how does that bode for occasional users, newbies, milennials, and Gen Xers?
I also have many years experience in retail... hard and soft lines... and had a 7 year stint as a district guy answering to the regional office and national HQ for a once very mighty discount retail company. I've seen the folly of mindless panic over a perceived competitor, combined with the senseless panic mode of forgetting about your customers and who they are in pursuit of what you think the other guy has or is doing, rather than concentrating on making what you are already established and known for better.
I've seen it go nutty enough that my firm even tried to emulate the other guys by laying stores out uniformly the same like the other guy's, forgetting that we were in leased older buildings and the new guy was building stores to suit.
Even though any ear to the ground would tell anyone who would listen that our customers tried the other guy and most were dissatisfied because they preferred our way of doing things, you couldn't get anyone on the executive board to listen.
My company was bought out by another big retailer and both are nearly gone now. The other guy? Doing great.
forgetting about your customers and who they are
That's a line I wrote earlier in this post, and trust me... this is any retailer's or etailer's Waterloo, right here. The minute you abandon your customers to chase somebody else's you're doomed, no matter what all the projections and analytics tell you. It's ballgame. You're trying to get customers who already belong to and are loyal to the other guy... and they know your attempt to be the other guy is just that. The customers who have been loyal to you for years are abandoned by you. they'll shrug and say "If my guy wants to be the other guy, maybe the other guy is OK after all. Why buy from a wannabe?"
We can talk about how an up and coming generation is the buyer of the future, sure, but that doesn't mean you turn your back on the buyer waving a fistful of dollars under your nose right now. Can anyone tell me if I have two dollars in my pocket- one came from an old guy with one foot in his casket, and another came from a kid in high school- which dollar is worth more on deposit?
05-14-2018 07:07 PM
@richards*collection wrote:
I want zip up Levi's 501's from the 70's,
Levi 501's are button fly. Where are you getting them with zippers ? and Why ?
05-14-2018 07:18 PM