03-09-2022 11:08 AM
I have been a seller on eBay for over 20 years and I am stating today that I will never use eBay again.
I guess I am a bit out of date because my last sale was about 2 years ago, when things were different.
My current sale of a Nikon camera had fees of 15%. Part of the fees were because my client was in another country, Viet Nam. Now, I did not know this when I accepted his offer but learned later when the fee was deducted from my sale price. Totally unfair. Further 12.5% in my opinion is outrageous and I was not aware the selling fee was that high when I listed. It should be stated when listing so the seller can choose to accept it or not.
So, a new adage, let the seller beware if on eBay.
Finally, I was not aware that they no longer used PayPal which gave instant payment. Now I must wait 5 days for my money. There are better ways to sell things.
Sorry eBay, a loyal customer is now gone. Plus, I intend to tell everyone I know about my experience.
Captainreef , rated 100%
03-09-2022 02:38 PM - edited 03-09-2022 02:39 PM
@luckythewinner wrote:I guess I am a bit out of date because my last sale was about 2 years ago, when things were different.
If you are a casual seller, your current fees under Managed Payments should have been 12.55% of the total payment (eBay) plus 1.65% (eBay international fee).
Your fees two years ago under eBay and PayPal would have been 10% of the total payment (eBay), plus 2.9% of the total payment (PayPal), plus 1.5% of the total (PayPal international fee).
So on a $100 international transaction, your fees now are $12.55 + $1.65 = $14.20
Two years ago on that same transaction they would have been $10 + $2.90 + $1.50 = $14.40
The PayPal compartmenalization made the fees sellers paid less than transparent. Evidently, many sellers paid litle attention to the overall take-out, separately by PayPal and eBay, so they get in an uproar when they see, for the first time, in one view, how it more or less worked all along.
Evidently, many of them also took the "Pal" in PayPal personally, and thought that purely commercial enterprise was actually a friend of some sort, somehow.
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03-09-2022 02:44 PM
Why is 12.5% "outrageous"? Did you forget you no longer pay PayPal for their money processing fee? Did you do the math at all.
Our Fee at the time we had the 12.5 fee was a 10.20 FVF on Ebay and 2.9% from PP = 13.10%, so during this time you were SAVING 0.60%.
Now we are at 12.9%, which if you take away the PP fee we no longer pay at 2.9% leaves 10% FVF for Ebay.
So what is it that you are complaining about?
03-09-2022 02:45 PM
Explain to me how I would know a buyer is from another country and thus that I would pay an extra fee for selling to him. To me, he looked like any other buyer. In fact, he had a USA shipping address.
03-09-2022 02:50 PM
03-09-2022 02:55 PM
@inhawaii wrote:
@luckythewinner wrote:I guess I am a bit out of date because my last sale was about 2 years ago, when things were different.
If you are a casual seller, your current fees under Managed Payments should have been 12.55% of the total payment (eBay) plus 1.65% (eBay international fee).
Your fees two years ago under eBay and PayPal would have been 10% of the total payment (eBay), plus 2.9% of the total payment (PayPal), plus 1.5% of the total (PayPal international fee).
So on a $100 international transaction, your fees now are $12.55 + $1.65 = $14.20
Two years ago on that same transaction they would have been $10 + $2.90 + $1.50 = $14.40
It's costing me 20 cents less but i still don't like it. I'm leaving!
That sounds like a fiscally responsible action to take !!!!!???????????!!!!!!!!!! 😂😘🙄🤣
03-09-2022 03:02 PM
@captain_reef wrote:Explain to me how I would know a buyer is from another country and thus that I would pay an extra fee for selling to him. To me, he looked like any other buyer. In fact, he had a USA shipping address.
You can't then or now unless you look at the buyer's FB page. Just like the fee is not new now or then. This fee has always been around, just now Ebay collects it instead of PP.
03-09-2022 03:13 PM
After you guys have been nice enough to justified all these things to the OP,
now his main complaint is why he didn't know the seller was international
and there was going to be a international fee.
03-09-2022 03:15 PM
You forgot the .30 listing fee so it's $14.50, plus the final value fee goes up soon or already has (I forget when that takes effect)
People always claim the international fee is for currency exchange but eBay clearly states that fee is charged anytime a buyer is located or registered in another country. We can't see how they paid so there could of been no conversion, you could did ship domestic and there may have been no freight forwarder used if the account was only registered in another but they didn't live in another country. Charge the buyer that fee lol
03-09-2022 03:21 PM
@inhawaii wrote:After you guys have been nice enough to justified all these things to the OP,
now his main complaint is why he didn't know the seller was international
and there was going to be a international fee.
See post 22
03-09-2022 03:27 PM
@jahood1984 wrote:You forgot the .30 listing fee so it's $14.50, plus the final value fee goes up soon or already has (I forget when that takes effect)
People always claim the international fee is for currency exchange but eBay clearly states that fee is charged anytime a buyer is located or registered in another country. We can't see how they paid so there could of been no conversion, you could did ship domestic and there may have been no freight forwarder used if the account was only registered in another but they didn't live in another country. Charge the buyer that fee lol
We often forget that per transaction fee of 30 cents when explaining the fee structure because it is EXACTLY what we paid when we used PayPal. However today PP charges 39 cents or 49 cents, I forget which it is.
No, there is a separate fee for the currency exchange rate, it is around 4% or so. Both Ebay and PP have this fee too.
Lots of people confuse these two fees. But they are distinctly different. To be charged the Exchange rate fee, the buyer would have to be paying you in some other currency other than US dollars.
For sellers that post on the US website, that isn't possible. Ebay simply does not allow it nor have they ever allowed it. So you would never get this fee unless you posted your listings on one of Ebay's other international sites, then they would have to convert the money for you and then the fee kicks in.
The currency sellers are paid it is driven by what Ebay site they post their listings.
03-09-2022 03:44 PM
I'm just saying, the OP is p'd off at ebay and and says he is leaving and no matter what you guys explain to him, I don't see him saying "You know what, you guys are right. I shouldn't be mad at ebay. I'm staying" any time soon.
Heck, lucky explained to him that he is actually paying LESS now than before. If that's not a good reason to stay, I don't know what is.
03-09-2022 03:54 PM
@reallynicestamps wrote:
The bad thing about MP is that we cannot build up funds to pay occasional fees (like Store subscriptions and some shipping fees) or to buy with.
I find that just having it set to weekly deposits takes care of that quite handily. I can't even remember the last time I haven't been able to pay my store fees or shipping fees right out of my pending payments.
03-09-2022 03:56 PM
@inhawaii wrote:I'm just saying, the OP is p'd off at ebay and and says he is leaving and no matter what you guys explain to him, I don't see him saying "You know what, you guys are right. I shouldn't be mad at ebay. I'm staying" any time soon.
Heck, lucky explained to him that he is actually paying LESS now than before. If that's not a good reason to stay, I don't know what is.
I put all those emoji's on my post so you'd know it was SARCASM.
03-09-2022 08:00 PM
@mam98031 wrote:
@inhawaii wrote:I'm just saying, the OP is p'd off at ebay and and says he is leaving and no matter what you guys explain to him, I don't see him saying "You know what, you guys are right. I shouldn't be mad at ebay. I'm staying" any time soon.
Heck, lucky explained to him that he is actually paying LESS now than before. If that's not a good reason to stay, I don't know what is.
I put all those emoji's on my post so you'd know it was SARCASM.
We need a SARCASM "FONT"......just sayin'.....lol
03-09-2022 08:01 PM
@captain_reef wrote:I have been a seller on eBay for over 20 years and I am stating today that I will never use eBay again.
I guess I am a bit out of date because my last sale was about 2 years ago, when things were different.
My current sale of a Nikon camera had fees of 15%. Part of the fees were because my client was in another country, Viet Nam. Now, I did not know this when I accepted his offer but learned later when the fee was deducted from my sale price. Totally unfair. Further 12.5% in my opinion is outrageous and I was not aware the selling fee was that high when I listed. It should be stated when listing so the seller can choose to accept it or not.
So, a new adage, let the seller beware if on eBay.
Finally, I was not aware that they no longer used PayPal which gave instant payment. Now I must wait 5 days for my money. There are better ways to sell things.
Sorry eBay, a loyal customer is now gone. Plus, I intend to tell everyone I know about my experience.
Captainreef , rated 100%
We can argue all day about whether the fees are too high, whether it is worth it or not to sell here. But one thing is certain, there should be a way we can disable the international sales if we want to. Among other things, the lack of control and poor implementation of this platform leave a lot to be desired. Hopefully eBay will focus on things that matter going forward, because the nickel and dime strategy is not a good one.