eBay and Paypal separating

[l756899]

I just read the ordeal of Ebay and Paypal seperating. I hope these changes will offer us to use different payment methods once again. 

I liked excepting money orders and the such. Also the New Bitcoin is in place. 

What do you think will happen out of this change?

[thebaglady-2016]

And who does paypal obey?  Like I said, if they were not attached in any way, things would get real interesting around here fast.  Without ebay having them under their thumb, paypal could become reputable.  And without ebay to support it, paypal would be forced to enforce its own policies and be reputable. The best thing that could ever happen to both of them as far as users are concerned.  When there is a conflict of interest between the 2 companies, they will nver be forced to do the right thing, they will always worry about each other first and foremost.

[sandypurins]

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@thebaglady-2016 wrote:

If you do your research, you can go back and read about how ebay used to WARN people about using paypal, how unsafe it was.

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I started reading and posting to the eBay discussion boards in March, 2000 (15 years ago)... I do not recall eBay ever saying PayPal is unsafe.

[futurefreak]

Arg. I keep accidentally hitting "post" instead of going to next thread. Sorry for the noobish behavior everyone 😞 Is there a way to go back and delete blank posts, or do the moderators just come by and do that?

It's weird, I've been on another board for 14 years and they don't even allow you to make blank posts, it will notify you before it even happens.

Anyways sorry to get off track everyone 😞

[d-k_treasures]

They didn't get that way by being disreputable.  They got that way by providing a service that, for the most part, was almost unattainable to the small online seller or average consumer

PP would be a lot different if it wasn't forced down EBAY sellers throats. Or, if you want some kind of refund or send your stuff to the valet to sell(ugh), you are forced to open a PP account.

THAT'S why they thrived.

[thebaglady-2016]

exactly. if they were truly separated, TOTALLY separated from one another, allowed to do what is individually good for both of them without having to consider that they share shareholders, there would be tons of payment methods that sellers would take other than paypal. paypal is only good for buyers and it is that way for reasons. they strongarm sellers into holding funds, seizing refunds when u dont bend over, etc.

when ebay lets us operate with the payments we want, things will change. but it will never happen. ebay would be crazy to give up the control they maintain over sellers via paypal. like the mafia. ebay would have to TRUST sellers if it werent for paypal, instead of threatening and chaining them.

[thebaglady-2016]

u can google it in 2001 and you can see the feud that went on between billpoint and paypal, ebay owning billpoint, trying to secure payments on ebay against paypal. used to try and convince buyers not to use it, safer to use ebays own system. yup, then they bought it and all of a sudden its the best thing since sliced bread. paypal is only good for a buyer.

[sandypurins]

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@thebaglady-2016 wrote:
u can google it in 2001 and you can see the feud that went on between billpoint and paypal, ebay owning billpoint, trying to secure payments on ebay against paypal. used to try and convince buyers not to use it, safer to use ebays own system.

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Yes... there was a feud, but... I don't think eBay ever said PayPal is unsafe.

[thebaglady-2016]

they used to tell me how much safer billpoint was

[texanna1]

That is Pay Pal's new user agreement, but then go read EBay user policy that says they can do it if you use their site.........hmmmmm

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@gopetersen wrote:

One statement of particular interest to sellers:

"What are the specific changes to the eBay User Agreement?

• Fees, holds, returns & cancellations, and Money Back Guarantee: Users now authorize eBay to instruct PayPal to make deductions from their PayPal account(s) for fees, returned items, items not as described, return shipping, cancellations (under our new cancellation policy), and Money Back Guarantee reimbursements. eBay will recommend, rather than request, when PayPal can restrict funds in a seller's PayPal account. We clarified language for holding seller funds, placing charges on a seller invoice and/or charging a payment method on file, and removing funds in a buyer's currency."

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[sandypurins]

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@thebaglady-2016 wrote:
they used to tell me how much safer billpoint was

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Yes, I can see where eBay may have said that, but that's not the same as saying PayPal is unsafe.  If I remember correctly, Billpoint was actually less safe for sellers because Billpoint didn't have any seller protection.

[thebaglady-2016]

I don't remember eithe rof them having any seller protection. I don't see any today either. INR with deliver confirmation = ONLY seller protection on ebay, still questionable with paypal

[sandypurins]

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@thebaglady-2016 wrote:

I don't remember eithe rof them having any seller protection. I don't see any today either. INR with deliver confirmation = ONLY seller protection on ebay, still questionable with paypal

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PayPal's seller protection is not limited to eBay transactions.

[michaels_lover]

All I use is PayPal...even on Etsy. It's just more conveinient for me. I like using it&have had no issues with it&I get my payments right away from my sales&can pay for things,right away. Not sure why some don't like it,but that is their choice. Me,I will stick with Paypal,though,because I like it,it's easy&I have had no problems with it. I'm not going to change something that works well,for me. I don't believe in 'fixing' things,that are'nt broken. That's just me,though...(:

[thebaglady-2016]

I understand, so why are their policies differeent on ebay? If you file with ebay, the rules say one thing, whereas if you file the exact same case with paypal, the rules are different.  Ebay buyers should be restricted to file with ebay, but nope, all the loopholes that ebay plugs (forwarding, INR to correct zip code, Refusals) are allowed and covered by paypal.  that should not be. One should be able to rely on the rules of the venue that they are listing on.