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@lotzofuniquegoodies wrote:
@simply-the-best-for-you wrote:
@lotzofuniquegoodies wrote:
@simply-the-best-for-you wrote:I'm a little confused. What are you trying to achieve? I got switched over to EIS a couple of months ago & for the most part, it's been very smooth. I agree that EISD is problematic, based on everything I've read about it.
Why did you opt out of EIS, if you want to still be able to ship internationally? EIS is the replacement for GSP. You should have received an email &/or a message in My Messages, when you got opted in. If you can tell us a bit more about HOW you want to ship internationally, we may be able to help.
Is it still possible for US sellers to ship to Canada without any of these wrascally programs? I know many sellers have been opted in without understanding the ramifications from this side of the border. From a Canadian perspective it would be soo much nicer as a Canadian to find US listings that did not have them attached. When it floats directly with USPS/Canadapost (especially on low value) items, goods arrive quicker, without risk of customs processing and potentially with (the biggie) cheaper shipping. Biggest downfall of GSP was parcel being handed off to a 3rd party and either leaving on a front step in plain sight or having no access to community mailboxes.
-Lotzofuniquegoodies (Would purchase from US sellers but finding it not worth risk/cost)
@lotzofuniquegoodies Sorry, I'm not the best one to answer that, as I like being in the programs & so I only shipped via one of the programs. I believe it's still possible to do so, but not if you're in EIS. It was possible if you're in GSP, to do both. With EIS, it's all or nothing, a global switch. That said, I have read of several people who have figured out a way around it, but I suspect that's a loophole that will be closed at some point.
However, I *think* if someone doesn't use either of the programs, they can still ship direct to our neighbors to the North.
Not sure how enforcement would/could be a thing? What would stop a seller from using stamps dot com or going to a postal outlet and sending. Then updating the tracking. If you did send outside the program does someone from the local police force show up and slap your fingers? 😟 Yikes!!!
-Lotz
Enforcement is built into the system. If a sale is EIS, just like when it was GSP, you can't choose to just go ship it on your own. I'm pretty sure the local police doesn't show up LOL & I'm not sure what the first issue to crop up would be, probably the fact that you shipped to a different address than what you were supposed to. It's eBay that would slap your hand eventually. I've never heard of anyone doing it, so IDK what would happen, the hub may have an INR, I don't know, but it would be very problematic to do, as being in the program, requires you to use the program & the first part of that is that you ship to a different address, plus they handle all the customs/taxes/etc.
If you're not in the program though, you s/b able to ship to Canada on your own.
@simply-the-best-for-you wrote:
@lotzofuniquegoodies wrote:
@simply-the-best-for-you wrote:
@lotzofuniquegoodies wrote:
@simply-the-best-for-you wrote:I'm a little confused. What are you trying to achieve? I got switched over to EIS a couple of months ago & for the most part, it's been very smooth. I agree that EISD is problematic, based on everything I've read about it.
Why did you opt out of EIS, if you want to still be able to ship internationally? EIS is the replacement for GSP. You should have received an email &/or a message in My Messages, when you got opted in. If you can tell us a bit more about HOW you want to ship internationally, we may be able to help.
Is it still possible for US sellers to ship to Canada without any of these wrascally programs? I know many sellers have been opted in without understanding the ramifications from this side of the border. From a Canadian perspective it would be soo much nicer as a Canadian to find US listings that did not have them attached. When it floats directly with USPS/Canadapost (especially on low value) items, goods arrive quicker, without risk of customs processing and potentially with (the biggie) cheaper shipping. Biggest downfall of GSP was parcel being handed off to a 3rd party and either leaving on a front step in plain sight or having no access to community mailboxes.
-Lotzofuniquegoodies (Would purchase from US sellers but finding it not worth risk/cost)
@lotzofuniquegoodies Sorry, I'm not the best one to answer that, as I like being in the programs & so I only shipped via one of the programs. I believe it's still possible to do so, but not if you're in EIS. It was possible if you're in GSP, to do both. With EIS, it's all or nothing, a global switch. That said, I have read of several people who have figured out a way around it, but I suspect that's a loophole that will be closed at some point.
However, I *think* if someone doesn't use either of the programs, they can still ship direct to our neighbors to the North.
Not sure how enforcement would/could be a thing? What would stop a seller from using stamps dot com or going to a postal outlet and sending. Then updating the tracking. If you did send outside the program does someone from the local police force show up and slap your fingers? 😟 Yikes!!!
-Lotz
Enforcement is built into the system. If a sale is EIS, just like when it was GSP, you can't choose to just go ship it on your own. I'm pretty sure the local police doesn't show up LOL & I'm not sure what the first issue to crop up would be, probably the fact that you shipped to a different address than what you were supposed to. It's eBay that would slap your hand eventually. I've never heard of anyone doing it, so IDK what would happen, the hub may have an INR, I don't know, but it would be very problematic to do, as being in the program, requires you to use the program & the first part of that is that you ship to a different address, plus they handle all the customs/taxes/etc.
If you're not in the program though, you s/b able to ship to Canada on your own.
In the past with GSP it was possible for a US seller to opt out on a listing by listing basis. Probably not so easy with this new program. As I understand it there are still no workaround for sellers wanting to ship using combined shipping. (From my research from the dot CA side.) If that is in the works or has a time frame attached it's not posted anywhere that I know of? We(North of border folks) often hear "working on it" but then nothing ever happens. As for outside those programs, it's been getting more difficult the last few years to locate sellers who do not use any eBay specific programs. (Almost to the point where I would pay for a filter to block those programs. Almost!!!
Real crime. Like shipping without permission!!
-Lotz
@lotzofuniquegoodies wrote:
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In the past with GSP it was possible for a US seller to opt out on a listing by listing basis. Probably not so easy with this new program. As I understand it there are still no workaround for sellers wanting to ship using combined shipping. (From my research from the dot CA side.) If that is in the works or has a time frame attached it's not posted anywhere that I know of? We(North of border folks) often hear "working on it" but then nothing ever happens. As for outside those programs, it's been getting more difficult the last few years to locate sellers who do not use any eBay specific programs. (Almost to the point where I would pay for a filter to block those programs. Almost!!!
Real crime. Like shipping without permission!!
-Lotz
@lotzofuniquegoodies Correct, it was easy (well not easy, but doable with GSP). It is presently NOT meant to be doable with EIS. I don't know if that will change. I wouldn't count on it, as it seems to me that it's by design. A few sellers have posted that they've found some workarounds. I have not tried those, b/c I have no desire to work around it. I did sell 2 items to Canada recently to the same buyer & you are correct, I was not able to combine. I'm sorry it is frustrating to our neighbors. I've spent a lot of time in Canada, I love Canada & I love Canadians. I don't make the rules, I just report them 😄 Funny, now I'm singing Ooooh-roo-koo-koo, ooooh-roo-koo-koo. Take off. It's a beauty way to go 😄
@lotzofuniquegoodies wrote:
@simply-the-best-for-you wrote:
@lotzofuniquegoodies wrote:
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In the past with GSP it was possible for a US seller to opt out on a listing by listing basis. Probably not so easy with this new program. As I understand it there are still no workaround for sellers wanting to ship using combined shipping. (From my research from the dot CA side.) If that is in the works or has a time frame attached it's not posted anywhere that I know of? We(North of border folks) often hear "working on it" but then nothing ever happens. As for outside those programs, it's been getting more difficult the last few years to locate sellers who do not use any eBay specific programs. (Almost to the point where I would pay for a filter to block those programs. Almost!!!
Real crime. Like shipping without permission!!
-Lotz
@lotzofuniquegoodies Correct, it was easy (well not easy, but doable with GSP). It is presently NOT meant to be doable with EIS. I don't know if that will change. I wouldn't count on it, as it seems to me that it's by design. A few sellers have posted that they've found some workarounds. I have not tried those, b/c I have no desire to work around it. I did sell 2 items to Canada recently to the same buyer & you are correct, I was not able to combine. I'm sorry it is frustrating to our neighbors. I've spent a lot of time in Canada, I love Canada & I love Canadians. I don't make the rules, I just report them 😄 Funny, now I'm singing Ooooh-roo-koo-koo, ooooh-roo-koo-koo. Take off. It's a beauty way to go 😄
Not being able to easily combine sounds extremely counter intuitive. Unless it's only goal is as a profit stream. The more economical it is to ship orders the more likely a buyer buying more at the same time. One would think. That would be how my mind would work if I saw similar items of interest. Sellers should not need to create new smorgasbord type listings to make a appease a buyer. That would definitely explain the in the recent, middle of the night removal of mixed lots in many of the eBay categories.
-FKA ~ Lotzofuniquegoodies - NowJustABunchOfStuffThatIsTheSameInTheClosestMatchingCategoryICouldDetect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNZ5BCr1mrs
@lotzofuniquegoodies I don't disagree with you. I'm just telling you how it works.
It's actually not a big deal for me, as I almost never get International tx's who buy multiples. But I understand that depending on what you sell, it could be a big deal.
