09-11-2021 01:24 PM - edited 09-11-2021 01:29 PM
After being notified that my listings were removed with the explanation that they "didn’t follow eBay's Illegal drugs and drug paraphernalia policy", I decided to further review said policy which did not explain why the listings were removed.
Naturally, I contacted support who affirmed that the policy applied to hemp also. So I reviewed the policy again and appealed the action based on the following:
According to eBay's Illegal Drug and Drug Paraphanalia policy - substances listed in Schedules I, II, III, VI or V of the Uniform Controlled Substances Act, 21 U.S.C. 801 are prohibited.
Whereas the Uniform Controlled Substances Act, 21 U.S.C. 801 specifically excludes any material, compound, mixture, or preparation that falls within the definition of hemp set forth in 7 U.S.C. 1639o, which in turn reads - "The term hemp means the plant Cannabis sativa L. and any part of that plant, including the seeds thereof and all derivatives, extracts, cannabinoids, isomers, acids, salts, and salts of isomers, whether growing or not, with a delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol concentration of not more than 0.3 percent on a dry weight basis.", I believe it is unreasonable and a blatant contradiction for sellers of non-drug products to be unfairly persecuted in such a unscrupulous manner.
Replies to other posts of this nature generally look something like "don't do it because they'll suspend your account" and "eBay doesn't allow hemp" which, to me, is a counterproductive response at most. This discussion needs to be had and if eBay has a "No Hemp" policy they need to explicitly state that so that seller's can take their business where it is welcome.
In the event that eBay's response to the appeal is not favorable then their whole spew about Social Impact, Diversity, Equity & Inclusion really isn't worth much, is it?
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09-11-2021 07:33 PM
@thcrib wrote:What if we stopped making up incoherent and counterproductive policies based on blatant misinformation, ignorance & prejudice; and started treating things for what they actually are? What would happen then? I wonder.
I can make an educated assumption that the blanket ban has at least something to do with money and resources. It takes more effort, time, money, legal, customer service, etc to say - let's allow some hemp products, but not others, and where do we draw the line and what are individual state laws, etc. It's much easier and cost effective to do a blanket ban, even if that means turning away revenue from selling clothing and collectibles.
What it comes down to is that eBay dictates the policy and we choose to sell here or not. Certain products can't be sold here and if that turns you off to the venue as a whole, that's OK. You can submit your feedback to eBay about the policy, but they don't have to change jack if they don't want to. So with that knowledge, you make your choice to stick around and sell non-prohibited items or not. eBay policy overrules whatever feelings you may have about why certain things should be allowed or not - so make a choice if you can live with that and keep selling here. Maybe that's a simplistic way of looking at it, but I do think it's that simple in the end.
09-11-2021 02:36 PM
It's pretty simple, it's their site and they don't want that **bleep** sold here.
09-11-2021 02:53 PM - edited 09-11-2021 02:57 PM
@kensgiftshop thank you for the insight; but could you be more specific as to what they don't want on their site, because if I understand what you're telling me, then it pretty much contradicts the Founder's Vision, CEO's words, as well as the policy (explained above).
09-11-2021 03:15 PM
Guess Pierre didnt envision hemp on his site..I would just suggest to be careful now..you are on Ebays radar.
09-11-2021 03:23 PM
@thcrib wrote:@kensgiftshop thank you for the insight; but could you be more specific as to what they don't want on their site, because if I understand what you're telling me, then it pretty much contradicts the Founder's Vision, CEO's words, as well as the policy (explained above).
It has nothing to do with the founders vision.
They don't want the stuff sold on their site and that's all the explanation that is needed.
09-11-2021 03:36 PM
Hi @thcrib
>> ... but could you be more specific as to what they don't want on their site <<
Here is the complete information on banned items on eBay:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/items-ov.html
What can or cannot be sold on eBay has changed over the years. There are many perfectly legal items that can't be sold on eBay currently. It's not always possible to figure out the reason why. Sometimes they are simply removed by mistake.
But this is what is most important for you to know:
As a rule of thumb, NEVER relist an item that eBay has removed ... even if you are certain that it was removed by mistake.
A listing is put on a bot's radar the first time it is removed ... and future listings of the item will be caught by bots quickly. Even if it appears you have cleared up the problem with a CS rep ... or with a supervisor ... the bot still has the listing on its radar.
You'll start receiving penalties when you relist, which will become increasingly severe until you’re permanently suspended. List your item somewhere else. It isn't worth trying to list the hemp on eBay to prove a point.
09-11-2021 03:40 PM
09-11-2021 03:43 PM
In the event that eBay's response to the appeal is not favorable then their whole spew about....
@thcrib
eBay "spews" alot of stuff. Basically, your listing was taken down by a bot. I don't know what the products were, but I am educated enough to know that there are many modern day products made from hemp such as clothing, fabrics, stationery, purses, jewelry etc.
I seriously doubt, anyone purchases a hoodie or sweater made from hemp with the idea of setting it on fire to elevate one's mood (unless of course they were stupid). eBay's bots likely hit on the word and took the listings down, so if you were selling clothing using the term 'natural fibers' they would still be up and running.
You will be told, that it is "ebay's sandbox, and they can do what they want". This is true, and it will still be their sandbox even though it appears to be generally used by a herd of cats.
09-11-2021 03:43 PM
do not sell guns...........cbd oil..............hemp.............
m class fireworks.....LSD......PCP
dangerous hallucinogens like HBWR are allowed
09-11-2021 03:54 PM
Thanks for chiming in.
I'm usure of what statute you're referring to, because as explained above hemp is legal and the products listed were souvenir hemp seeds which are a non-drug product listed under Collectables > Science & Medicine (1930-Now).
Note that all items in question, were also packaged accordingly by the manufacturers with the appropriate disclaimers to dissuade collectors and enthusiasts from engaging in potentially unlawful or unsafe conduct, however, I appeal to the reader's higher self in recognizing that infringing upon an otherwise restricting, hindering, obstructing or even discriminating against the free trade of seed is an act against all mankind and our natural rights.
Bless,
C
09-11-2021 03:55 PM
Thanks for chiming in.
The products listed were souvenir hemp seeds which are a non-drug product listed under Collectables > Science & Medicine (1930-Now).
Note that all items in question, were also packaged accordingly by the manufacturers with the appropriate disclaimers to dissuade collectors and enthusiasts from engaging in potentially unlawful or unsafe conduct, however, I appeal to the reader's higher self in recognizing that infringing upon an otherwise restricting, hindering, obstructing or even discriminating against the free trade of seed is an act against all mankind and our natural rights.
Bless,
C
09-11-2021 03:56 PM
Thank you for the input and good humor!!
Bless,
C
09-11-2021 03:59 PM
Yeah......I just don't know.
I haven't read any eBay policy or founder's statements that said if a member cries real hard they may sell hemp on eBay.
Not as I recall, but I could have missed it......but I don't think so.
09-11-2021 04:00 PM - edited 09-11-2021 04:03 PM
@thcrib wrote:Where does eBay really stand on hemp?
After being notified that my listings were removed with the explanation that they "didn’t follow eBay's Illegal drugs and drug paraphernalia policy", ...
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I think that could be most accurately described as "enough said". No more discussion is necessary.
eBay's stand on hemp is made abundantly clear by your experience.
09-11-2021 04:01 PM
It has nothing to do with the founders vision.They don't want the stuff sold on their site and that's all the explanation that is needed.
Quite possibly very true, at which point I will accept their formal acknowledgement of such and move on.