05-20-2022 04:37 PM
Recently I've seen a bunch of sellers coming here complaining about slow sales because ebay has been messing with views.
Let's agree that ebay has been messing with views. Let's say the views are TOTALLY SCREWED UP.
How does that effect sales?
05-20-2022 06:29 PM
Get out of here with that logic. That does not work here.
EVERYTHING affects sales, if eBay changes the color of their logo, that stops sales.
05-20-2022 06:31 PM - edited 05-20-2022 06:32 PM
@tealt wrote:Well, how about a nice conspiracy theory?
I seem to remember once reading that eBay Search bots/algorithm/whatever involves evaluating the "desirability" of a listing by checking (among other things) views. If views were low, the listing might be considered to be undesirable and much less likely to be displayed in Search.
I also remember reading that eBay considered an item to be undesirable if it got a lot of views without getting a sale because there must be something "wrong" with it.
05-20-2022 07:50 PM - edited 05-20-2022 07:50 PM
@luckythewinner wrote:
@tealt wrote:Well, how about a nice conspiracy theory?
I seem to remember once reading that eBay Search bots/algorithm/whatever involves evaluating the "desirability" of a listing by checking (among other things) views. If views were low, the listing might be considered to be undesirable and much less likely to be displayed in Search.
I also remember reading that eBay considered an item to be undesirable if it got a lot of views without getting a sale because there must be something "wrong" with it.
LOL 😃
05-20-2022 08:29 PM
If Ebay removes the view counter totally does that mean that there will never be another item sold here?
The whole view counter thing here is ridiculous. It's NEVER been right. I've sold many, many items that supposedly had zero views.
The views only mean something if the view counter actually works properly, and even then they don't mean much, because it doesn't matter if you have zero views or a million, what matters is a sale.
05-20-2022 08:38 PM
The view indicators & actual views are definitely in chaos. However, that shouldn't stop anyone from listing & selling. Keep in mind that your item might be seasonal & might not have any views at the present time. Plus, you have all the outside factors that are influencing the buyers spending habits. Stay the course, list away, sell, & ship away!
Good luck!
05-20-2022 09:13 PM
@luckythewinner wrote:
2) If you change your perspective slightly, isn't a view on an active listing really just an indication that someone was NOT interested in buying your item?
TOUCHE !!!!!
05-20-2022 09:26 PM
Hey ramblin' boy why don't you settle down? Boston ain't your kind of town.
***********
Before George H W Bush ran for president he was the director of the CIA. While campaigning in New Hampshire he was asked if he had ever been to a Communist country. Without missing a beat he said, in a very off handed way “Well, I’ve been to Massachusetts”
I had just moved to California, which promptly elected a Governor known as “Moonbeam” and rapidly became lefty as well, so I finally settled down in Nevada. And, you’re right, Boston is not my kind of town. Thanks for noticing.
05-20-2022 09:50 PM
Tagging on:
Listing views and USPS tracking.
Same deal, Focusing on these two subjects contributes nothing to our mental health, and neither can be influenced or changed.
They just do what they are going to do.
05-20-2022 10:16 PM
It doesn't affect sales, in fact I have quiet a lot that have zero page views and sold.
05-20-2022 11:45 PM - edited 05-20-2022 11:49 PM
I've had zero view items sell, too.
The many views and no sales simply drops the item in search (one metric is relevancy), but it could be for any reason including poor title SEO which doesn't represent the actual item very well, so it doesn't come up in searches for those actually looking for it, but does for someone who isn't, so they click out without any judgment on desirability. I don't look at views that much and haven't considered a direct link (I don't think there is one given that we're now looking at only organic views and not the other riff-raff that gets in there, which is really only a cosmetic change), but the more unique an item the less I think people have to worry about this because it won't be drowned in a bunch of like items.
ETA: I had something with 16 watchers and a bunch of views - an ordinary thing, nothing unusual - that I ended and will relist because I think it got onto someone's blog - there's no other reason for that many watchers to be crowding into that item...but not purchasing it. This has happened before and those items never sell. It's like a curse.
05-21-2022 12:30 AM
I imagine changes to the site causes glitches? Interrupting who knows what. ?? It's a theory. lol
05-21-2022 12:56 AM - edited 05-21-2022 01:00 AM
Guess I shouldn't have sold those items where I didn't have a single prior view or a watcher. Those rascal buyers jist went and bought it and paid for it - they must have been messed up...
05-21-2022 12:59 AM - edited 05-21-2022 01:01 AM
@chapeau-noir wrote:
The many views and no sales simply drops the item in search (one metric is relevancy),
That is an interesting thought which I hadn’t considered.
If I could explore that with you a bit.
When the views count was for the entire time that the listing was up it would seem to make sense for slow selling items. But I have some listings that sell on a regular basis and I constantly restock before they run out. As a result some of my listings are as much as 4 years old - but still selling well - except I had no idea of the currentliness (I think that’s a word?) of the views.
I checked my current listings and many of them have a few to a dozen views which is what I would expect for a 30 days period.
But I have some with several to many dozen views in 30 days and few to no sales. Within the context of your comment do you think that is a problem (regarding search placement) that needs to be addressed? Or am I overthinking it?
05-21-2022 01:15 AM - edited 05-21-2022 01:19 AM
Excuse me for being technical* - you had to have at least one prior view for someone to buy it - but you never say it. On a rare occasion have sold items within a few seconds of listing it - kinda' nice - guess that what the mean by Having The Right Item at the Right Price at the Right Time. When that happens it only takes one views - when one has multiple views those are nosy other eBay (or other venue)sellers selling the same or similar item or just "window shoppers" looking and saying "that is nice or ugly" and do the "walk on by".
* Am a degred engineer with a miner in business. Never engineering on thing for any company - got in to sales/marketing with technical y oriented products
05-21-2022 01:39 AM
One more thing - have read the book called "Men Are From Mars and Women Are From Venus" twice and discovered I have a better chance of understanding the writings of William Shakespeare. Maybe beer will help (don't do wine)